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Old May 29th, 2001
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Exclamation We must fight back

To answer the person who said that we shouldn't do anything about it and we shouldn't tell him how to run his life:

If you don't want to join us who would like to fight such behaviour on Gnutella network, then step aside and don't tell us how to run our lives or how to behave.

In addition to other measures, I suggest that each one of us should check the files that they have downloded and 'clean' them regularly.
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Old June 1st, 2001
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Default Another danger of mis-labeling

Another reason not to mis-label is so you don't accidentally get caught in vigilante reprisals yourself. Just recently there's been a new email virus that looks for suspiciously named files and sends a report to one of a number of law enforcement agencies. ;-)

Kinda a fun idea, but although a filename doesn't prove anything, you really don't want to be in the position of having to prove you're *not* a child pornographer!

Also you don't want to download this stuff even accidentally. In the USA, just having the stuff on your HD is enough to get you sent to prison, and I doubt the procecution or jury will care how it got there.

Many gnutella clients allow you to filter search results that have certain keywords. I'll usually make a list to filter out results with pre-teen, preteen, lolita etc. I don't want to see this stuff let alone accidentally download any of it (which in some clients is all to easy to do - especially when the terms are hidden in very long filenames).
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Old June 2nd, 2001
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Default Re: We must fight back

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Originally posted by Unregistered
To answer the person who said that we shouldn't do anything about it and we shouldn't tell him how to run his life:

If you don't want to join us who would like to fight such behaviour on Gnutella network, then step aside and don't tell us how to run our lives or how to behave.

In addition to other measures, I suggest that each one of us should check the files that they have downloded and 'clean' them regularly.
I agree with you & as far as a filter backfiring on you & sending your IP to the police for having a particularly nasty file in your system, well I don't think that's really a problem in that pig pedophiles don't just have one or two mistakenly downloaded files of that crap-they've usually been at their sicko "hobby" for a while & have Huge amounts of sick ****.

Unless those files are showing up in large numbers on your HD, I can't imagine that being a reason to be busted because you'd have to be blind not to see your HD is running out of memory & that's not exactly something you're not going to notice-on the other hand, if those files are showing up enmass & it's obvious that you're one sick MF, then you Should be busted! It's what you deserve!

I really hate those words: "do nothing"
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Old January 10th, 2002
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Angry Re: Scandalous pedophile on gnutella network.

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Originally posted by Ptilu
I was downloading some song when I saw a title who looked strange "Child porn 10 yr film 14_03 preteen *******.mpeg" I download it to see what it was exactly and I was horrified when I saw that was a real pedophile video. I come from Belgium and I find that so horrible. If there is some Hackers who could kill these computer, that could be fun.
If you want to receive Host number of people who put that **** on the Gnutella network please send me a e-mail (vm2504@yahoo.com)and I will send you back four Host number.

Internet is not a bin for ruined guys.


Why downloading when the title says child porn 10 yr ???????
Just curiousity or are you sick !!!!
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Old March 25th, 2002
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just curious how a mpeg/mpg file showed up in an audio search... and what song was named child 10yo whatever... seriously... get real you where curious or something ok fine you deleted it great! you kept it you're a sicker person than i, and i hope noone takes pitty on you in court.
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Old March 25th, 2002
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Unhappy sad state of affairs when you can't use the net for porn

I personally think the internet has reached the state where you can no longer safely use it for porn. There is too much corrupting stuff out there.

Even on the most wholesome www sites, there are usually schoolgirl and/or teen categories. (OK, they aren't real schoolgirls or teens, but how many girls do you meet who dress as schoolgirls and use a teddybear as a sex toy?)

You pays your money you takes your chances.

However, I think it would be nice and somewhat effective to have clients which allow filtering of user-defined strings (could be in a config file easy to download and distribute) which drop any passing search for said content, instead of passing it on (or replying;-).

If enough users get these filters, then it would become very hard to search for this stuff without making a seperate network.

Sure, they will start to use the word 'teen' instead of 'preteen' - they already do. You take a risk to download any jpg (or mpg?), as far as I can tell.

Stick to the mp3s ;-)

Perhaps we could kindly request the paedos to encrypt their files? It would be better for everyone! Then they can use the extension .pgp or something, and we won't find the files when we search for .jpg.
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Old March 28th, 2002
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For a while I did post a tremendously horrible picture of a disfigured man, under a title containing what I thought were keywords used by pedophiles.
So that's my suggestion.

I don't dare do anything of the sort these days by fear of seeing the police arrive here, thinking I'm actually sharing kiddie porn...

(I got the picture in question on rotten.com. -I'd browsed my way there after a friend's suggestion. AND I REGRETTED BADLY !
That little trip even kind of scared my off the internet for a few days. Nevertheless, I managed to save the one picture, thinking it could come in handy if ever I hated someone reeeaaallllll bad. And pedophiles are pretty much in that category.)

Last edited by Raman; March 28th, 2002 at 02:36 PM.
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Old April 2nd, 2002
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Default Re: People aren't idiots

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Originally posted by ryan15575
It's nearly impossible to block anything on gnutella. Not to mention, it's nearly impossible to prove anyone actually intended to share files like that... While the police can tell you to remove specific files, it's only if you don't that they have anything to prosecute you on.
Actually posession of child porn is a crime. If you live in the US, it would be very easy for the police to find your IP by setting up clients and monitoring traffic on the network and then check that info with your ISP, get a warrent, bust down your door and seize your computer. If there is child porn on your harddrive then you are guilty, buddy.

Of course I don't think they would go after you if you had only one picture, but if you had thousands of them, they would... they mostly try to catch the people who make/distribute for profit the stuff, though. Because without the people who make money off it, it wouldn't exist at all... Nobody creates content just to share it on P2P networks.

Actually a clever programmer could create a program that would monitor gnutella queries for childporn activity, then record the date/time/IP. The user could then complain to the pervert's ISP and probably get them banned. Of course this sort of vigilante justice is treading a dangerous path... I think the "middle road" of merley refusing to propagate the childporn queries is the best solution.
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Old April 5th, 2002
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Default Re: Another danger of mis-labeling

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Originally posted by SRL
Kinda a fun idea, but although a filename doesn't prove anything, you really don't want to be in the position of having to prove you're *not* a child pornographer!
You especially don't want to be in the position when they might actually find something on your disk even though you deleted it when you found out what it is. I don't think the law cares that you didn't want the material. All that matters is possesion.
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Old April 7th, 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tomato
You cant avoid it completely.


So I also received that kind of files. When I watch my files i kill them of course. But in meantime also on my computer are that kind of movies.

Yes it's true it's a scary topic but you better be careful what you wish for if you're saying you receive these files "by accident". How is one to know if it's "accident" or intentional?
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