While we are in wonderland .... you know the place where all ISPs consipire against the infamous port 6346 to shut down gnutella and untimately p2p forever .... i was looking up and saw a green pig flying high in the sky....

Get real.

Sorry but I think you're the one who's dreaming.
Gnutella is not invincible like Taliban said, and he's right.

OK, maybe it's impossible to let all ISPs block the port 6346 but...
it would make a big difference if all AOL, Compuserve or T-Online user couldnt use port 6346.

They could force the ISPs to block them by sueing them,
just to name an example.

Fact is, that it is indeed possible.
But maybe I'm just worrying too much.

If you quit using bearshare and start using a advanced client, you would find that gwebcache is a distributed host cache system, and vinnie had nothing to do with it even though he will probably claim he saved gnutella again with it.

I do know the GWebcache.
I'm coding the ASP version of it.
Its called Lynn Gnutella Cache.

So now can the Gnutella developers get serious about more anonymity?
Will it take a complete shutdown of Gnutella by the big corps to get them to wake up?

"p2pNG, a public discussion/working group for establishing standards for the p2p community, has been started by the developers of the OpenP2P Project."

The group's primary goals are:

1) Unifying the currently fragmented p2p space through interoperability.
2) Establishing a viable, secure and anonymous communications standard over TCP/IP.

The URLs are:
http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman.../openp2p-p2png
http://p2pNG.tk

Gwebcache is pretty darn cool, I must admit.

However, I was never fully comfortable with the idea that the IP address are not tested to make sure they can accept incoming connections.

I also feel that even Gwebcache is vulnerable to attacks, although the attacks will not be completely effective at blocking access to the network, they can cause connection establishment to take longer.

However, kudos to the developers of gwebcache for tackling this difficult problem head-on.

Thanks, good thing I came up with it when I did, we really need it now and more anon features.A little at a time, some of the security concerns have been addressed for the more basic attacks, and there are over 190 GWebCache servers running now so it is much better than the few dedicated "connect1.gxxx" we had before.
The IP addresses given on the system are mostly ultrapeers and are checked in a way since posting them from different IP sources will keep them around, otherwise they drop off. You can't just keep posting wild IP numbers to them from a single IP source either. If you had a bank of IP numbers available to you, you might be able to cause a little glitch in the system, but it would recover quickly and a lot of people would know who you are very fast.
GWebCache never would have happened if it wasn't for Open Source and many peoples' contributions.
Kudos also to ZeRO-G who picked this up and ran with it like a mad man on a wild mission when no one else paid any attention.
Some of the history and security concerns can be found here:
http://216.74.73.125/~c0re/gnuforum/...play.php?fid=7