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Old June 26th, 2002
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Just pay attention to the files that you're downloading with your own client. I guaranf'ing-t you that alot of these downloads are coming from Bearshare clients. Why are you complaining again?
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In fact, I am a developper. At the moment, I am making some test with the differents clients. I didn't know that the special bearshare URL was generated for the browsers only. I will continue my test with programming instead of browser..

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Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?
I think Gnucleus allows browser downloading, and so does Morpheus (the largest market share).
What about XoloX?
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Perhaps it prevents from being sux with software like teleport pro,etc. which are mass downloaders.
It could be a good feature...

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It also prevents companies from getting lists of your shared files, or makes it more difficult anyway.
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Isn't it silly for vinnie to block browsers since bearshare has such a very, very small market share now?

What doesn't market share matter? BearShare lets me choose to let browsers download from me or not. I personally hate leechers, so I turn off browser downloading in BearShare.
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Quote:
Originally posted by wheelz-off
It also prevents companies from getting lists of your shared files, or makes it more difficult anyway.
Do we really need a browse host feature? I think not...

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Old June 29th, 2002
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I don't have a problem against leechers.

The problem is when there is such a massive volume of leechers that regular people can't get files.

Such was the situation when BearShare was first release. BearShare was the first Gnutella servent to show the User-Agent in uploads.

All of a sudden, people were asking "Hey, what's this Mozilla, is it another Gnutella servent?".

The answer is, NO! It was browsers, and they were taking up 98 PERCENT OF ALL UPLOAD SLOTS!

It was the primary cause for busy signals in Gnutella.

MusicCity is pretty stupid for allowing browsers, now we will see those web sites that leech Gnutella and show banners spring back up like weeds, and pretty soon you will never be able to get files from Morpheus users.

Again, I don't mind freeloaders (BearShare has no anti-freeloader features), as long as the network can support both the freeloaders and the people who share.

Unfortunately, a network which allows browsers can never support everyone.
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Unfortunately, a network which allows browsers can never support everyone.
Yes so the best network improvement would be to stop the browers or not?

Btw you say Morpheus allows other websites to download from them... I remember a time I think a year ago, I read something similar about bearshare...

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Shareaza also supports the banning of Browsers (and any client). In fact, it comes with Mozilla already entered...

I don't see what the problem is and why any heat on Vinnie for providing something that any intelligent user would want as default.
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