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Old July 9th, 2002
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Default Re: I would have to say Shareaza.... over Gnucleus.

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After months of trying Kazaa lite, Gnucleus, Bearshare, Limewire, I finally found another decent client to replace my trusted Gnotella. Shareaza. This program doesn't use up many resources either. No lockups, great install.
Haha, funny. I've used Gnotella a lot (best Gnutella client ever until a few months ago), and although it was very good, the only bad thing it had was it used a lot of CPU resources.

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Try [edit], once it is released because it is the best client their is!!!

First code, then talk

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Use what everyone else should be using, Shareaza. It's by far the #1 Gnutella client avaliable. Unless somebody here can say why not :P
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Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.
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But Opensource mustnt be the solution for everything:
Look how many clones are out there from Gnucleus and LimeWire, it is not that good.

There are many firms who try to make profit out of opensource
(Streamcast).

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As I have read on that musicom homepage musicom is not gnutella. So its quite Offtopic here.

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As I have read on that musicom homepage musicom is not gnutella. So its quite Offtopic here.
Isn't it pay too?
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Okay, why Shareaza is not the best client around? 1) I never saw a Shareaza ultrapeer. 2) Shareaza claims to be able to chat to LimeWire and browse LimeWire, but it's definitely impossible for LimeWire to browse Shareaza or to open chat wth Shareaza. 3) It's rather unstable compared to more mature clients (e.g. LimeWire). 4) It claims to be non-commercial, yet it's not open source.
Some interesting comments, thank you

Shareaza isn't currently open source for three simple reasons:

a - Because its closed source, I can control it. If I want to add something I dont have to get approval or code within certain guidelines, etc. Granted I could just "publish" the code for interested parties to read, but then:

b - People could clone it, which doesn't really help anyone except the person(s) doing the cloning. Usually the motivation to clone IS commercial, and while there could be stipulations preventing this kind of use, who is going to enforce them?

c - There is no real need for another reference implementation. I believe Gnucelus provides an implementation in C++ (which is what Shareaza would be), LimeWire provides a Java implementation, and gtk-gnutella for Linux in C (?). If someone genuinely needs to know how something is done, they can use these resources (or ask).

As for the other items, the lack of Shareaza ultrapeers is probably most easily explained by the general lack of Shareaza users. Its terrific that Shareaza has such a dedicated, enthusiastic and supportive user base, but in terms of numbers it cant compete with the big three (or four counting Morpheus separately).

And LimeWire chat/browsing compatibility -- that should all work fine. I say should because anything is possible in practice, but if you have found a problem I would encourage you to post it with a description in an appropriate venue such as the Shareaza forum here or at shareaza.com, where in either case it will receive full attention. Likewise with any stability problem you may have encountered -- if you see a problem, post the error report and it can (and will) be fixed. Modern debugging is very, very accurate.
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M. Shareaza, please use Limewire and search for shareaza. When the results of the last version appear, try to browse these hosts. You can't!!! BUG on shareaza's part or lime's, but find it please. keep up your great work.
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Some interesting comments, thank you

Shareaza isn't currently open source for three simple reasons:

a - Because its closed source, I can control it. If I want to add something I dont have to get approval or code within certain guidelines, etc. Granted I could just "publish" the code for interested parties to read, but then:

b - People could clone it, which doesn't really help anyone except the person(s) doing the cloning. Usually the motivation to clone IS commercial, and while there could be stipulations preventing this kind of use, who is going to enforce them?

c - There is no real need for another reference implementation. I believe Gnucelus provides an implementation in C++ (which is what Shareaza would be), LimeWire provides a Java implementation, and gtk-gnutella for Linux in C (?). If someone genuinely needs to know how something is done, they can use these resources (or ask).

As for the other items, the lack of Shareaza ultrapeers is probably most easily explained by the general lack of Shareaza users. Its terrific that Shareaza has such a dedicated, enthusiastic and supportive user base, but in terms of numbers it cant compete with the big three (or four counting Morpheus separately).

And LimeWire chat/browsing compatibility -- that should all work fine. I say should because anything is possible in practice, but if you have found a problem I would encourage you to post it with a description in an appropriate venue such as the Shareaza forum here or at shareaza.com, where in either case it will receive full attention. Likewise with any stability problem you may have encountered -- if you see a problem, post the error report and it can (and will) be fixed. Modern debugging is very, very accurate.
Yeah Mike, keep it close thats better, opensource is currently disappointing me too much.
But please release the code in case you want to discontinue (hopefully that wont happen)
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