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Old July 24th, 2002
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Angry Forcefully disconnecting user. NO THANKS!!!

Here is a question to all *******s that forcefully disconnect user. I'm steaming about this problems!!!
Why? I trying to download some mp3 file and the same bounch of IP addresses are forcefully disconnecting me. I think it is so darn rude. Is it because we are a second-class client? Because we do not have eider DSL or T1 connection? Yes I have “only” 56k modem. It’s because up here in the mountain we do not have eider DSL or cable modem. Yes, we have cable but the cable company is refusing to install cable modem. Please help us with slow speed to get the stuff too. We are sharing with you SO SHARE BACK. And turn of your block on slow speed. We have this P2P for sharing not as a status symbol!!
I think everybody should try to talk to the people that have a block and if that is not working we should publish their IP address and everybody can disconnecting them.

Stop disconnect madness!!!!
Please tell us what you think!!!
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Angry Forcefully rejects!!!!!!

Here is a list of forcefully rejected, this happen under 1 hours downloading. Total songs requested were 38. The request was made 6 times!!! And all the time the same resolt.
172.152.164.xx,
68.7.70.xx,
156.24.168.xx,
66.245.20.xx,
68.101.141.xxx,
12.222.242.xxx,
65.24.113.xxx, All song (4) request from me after 1 minutes
127.0.0.1, All song (8) request from me after 2 minutes
80.192.33.xx, , All song (6) request from me after 1 minutes
142.161.67.xxx,
203.125.50.xxx.

So, I want to say it is very common. Kick on the guy/girl that don’t have cable modem and up.


Sorry RealBigSwede, don't print other peoples' IP without their permission

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Old July 25th, 2002
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Are you saying that in one hour you requested 38 different files? And you use a dial-up? If I'm reading you correctly, I'd disconnect you too. I've got a fairly fast connection, but to keep things under control I've limited the number of simultaneous uploads. Within a few minutes of me firing up the client software, all those upload slots are in use and they stay in use until I shut down. From looking at the logs, I know that I'm rejecting at least 100 upload requests for every one that gets through. I can't stand to see one of those slots poking along at 500 bytes/sec, which is about where you'd be if you were downloading half those 38 files on a dial-up.

It's like I'm running a very busy tavern. There are only so many seats at the bar. If you're sitting at one of them, you better be drinking at a reasonable rate. I've got customers six deep waiting for a seat to open up and if you're not going to make good use of yours, I'm going to kick you out and let a real drinker have your stool.

I'm not saying you have to be downloading at DSL speeds, but I at least want to see a good percentage of your dial-up bandwidth dedicated to that transfer. If you can't keep up at least 1k bytes/sec download speed, you don't want that file bad enough. At least that's my take on it.

I HAVE a cable modem and I can't connect to download most of the stuff I try because all the available upload slots on the target clients are in use. To go back to the tavern analogy, it's like all the seats at the bar are being used by people slowly sipping at their drinks while the heavy drinkers are standing outside waiting for a seat to open up. If the barkeep doesn't get rid of those slow drinkers he's going to go out of business. If Gnet doesn't figure out how to efficiently manage the available bandwidth, people are going to get tired of seeing screens full of "Queued" statuses and they'll go looking for alternatives. People on dial-ups requesting dozens of files simultaneously only compounds the problem.
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Are you saying that in one hour you requested 38 different files? And you use a dial-up? If I'm reading you correctly, I'd disconnect you too. ...... screens full of "Queued" statuses and they'll go looking for alternatives. People on dial-ups requesting dozens of files simultaneously only compounds the problem.

I tried in 1 hour 38 diffrent files, If I din't get one I tryed an other, whats wrong with that? Not all in one shot. What do you think "I'm crazy"? And then last night one of then that was kicking me out all-the-time (ip address 127.0.0.1,) swarmed my mashine with 500!! request in 15 minuts, I think that was quite funny, no I didn't kick him/her off. I just wonder why that person did that.
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And then last night one of then that was kicking me out all-the-time (ip address 127.0.0.1,) swarmed my mashine with 500!! request in 15 minuts, I think that was quite funny, no I didn't kick him/her off.
That should be funny since you're connecting to yourself.
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That should be funny since you're connecting to yourself.
Why should Gnutella client connent to meself? It dosen't make any sense. And serching for a song on my mashine that I was not looking for. It was looking for R****** S*****, I was looking for Y**, H** S****, S***** & L**** and T**** (most of the is Swedish music).

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I tried in 1 hour 38 diffrent files, If I din't get one I tryed an other, whats wrong with that? Not all in one shot. What do you think "I'm crazy"?
While I don't feel qualified to comment authoritatively on the state of your mental health, I will say you seem to be in better shape than some of the people who upload from me. I can't tell you how many times I've seen transfers slow to an absolute crawl. I know the problem isn't on my end, so, when I see an upload going at 200 bytes/sec, I can only assume the person on the other end has severely overloaded their connection. In these cases, I have no qualms about hitting the disconnect button.

I have no problem with dial-up users attempting to download 38 files in an hour. It's the ones who actually have 38 going at one time that I have a problem with.
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Originally posted by RealBigSwede
Here is a list of forcefully rejected, this happen under 1 hours downloading. Total songs requested were 38. The request was made 6 times!!! And all the time the same resolt.
172.152.164.xx,
68.7.70.xx,
156.24.168.xx,
66.245.20.xx,
68.101.141.xxx,
12.222.242.xxx,
65.24.113.xxx, All song (4) request from me after 1 minutes
127.0.0.1, All song (8) request from me after 2 minutes
80.192.33.xx, , All song (6) request from me after 1 minutes
142.161.67.xxx,
203.125.50.xxx.

So, I want to say it is very common. Kick on the guy/girl that don’t have cable modem and up.


Sorry RealBigSwede, don't print other peoples' IP without their permission
127.0.0.1 is the localhost not an outside connection.
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Sorry RealBigSwede, don't print other peoples' IP without their permission

Maybe that will get the persons to stop this selfich style, of disconecting slow sharer. We are supose to share, not trying to kick people off.
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