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Old September 8th, 2002
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Question Pong Server

Anybody got some more detailed information on how to setup a Pong Server? I run on Mac - 10.2. Looked at the Limewire site for a little information on this but my knowledge of Unix and Java is about 0.05%...
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Old September 10th, 2002
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Yo EvicerateX

Unlike (flame) so put a (flame and rude). I asked a valid question, (flame), smile and (flame and rude)!

I am trying to help out here so if anybody can assist ley me know....

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Old September 10th, 2002
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sangony keep it clean and calm down please
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Old September 10th, 2002
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Quote:
Originally posted by Peerless

Can maybe one of you knowledgable Mods step in and clear this all up for everyone???
im not the knowledgable mod but i tried to clean it up peerless.
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Old September 11th, 2002
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Default Re: Ok...

EvicerateX:

Do you (flame)

With (flame). (really long flame). And in case you didn't read between the lines,... take a REALLY long time.

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Old September 11th, 2002
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Default I feel really stupid.

I really feel bad now... now that I actually realized what he was talking about. I'm a file sharing retard at times. Pong as in Ping response. I'm a moron, and I apologize.
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Old September 11th, 2002
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Default Re: I feel really stupid.

Anyway....

This is what Limewire has on their home page under "Get Involved ::: add a pong server"

The Gnutella network currently relies heavily on two pong servers to act as entry points into the Gnutella network. This is a major shortcoming in that it is totally unscalable and it provides close to a single point of failure.

We would like to encourage the availability of a larger pool of pong servers in the Gnutella world. As the network scales up, the two primary ones (router.limewire.com and gnutellahosts.com) can not handle the total traffic. Any centralized system is not truly scalable but as a first step, it would be good to have as many pong servers running as possible. These could also be localized to specific geographic regions, university campuses, etc.

We are looking for sites with static IPs that are willing to run a pong server 24 by 7.

Lime Wire has created a minimalist pong server that is available here:
http://www.limewire.com/pongcache/SimplePongCache.tgz

This is a Java based pong server that can handle from 100 to 200 users a minute. It requires you to separately download a Java VM from here:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/jre/

You can install this on a linux/unix server with "gzip -d -c SimplePongCache.tgz | tar -xvf -". You are required to have Java1.1 or higher available. (With 1.1, you may need to change the startup command)

The install creates a SimplePongCache directory in which you will find all that you require to run it. It will use port 6346 by default with a background task running on 6347. You might need to "chmod a+x startup.sh" and take out the "-l" if you don't want logging on.

It works by using a core piece of the LimeWire client and a front end piece similar to our main pong server. The client core will hold 2 permanent connections to the Gnutella network and listen for and collect pongs. It communicates all of these pongs to the pong server. The pong server will randomly give out 10 of the last 1000 pongs that it has seen to incoming clients. Note: it closes connections too fast for old clients like Gnutella 0.56/ToadNode so you will only see 1 pong in these.

To get available pongs, it is much more efficient to just hold 2 connections to the network rather than try and crawl the network. The pongs fill up quickly. This software works well for up to 100 connections per minute. Over that level of activity and you might start missing requests.

Check the readme.txt for further information. This is an early version so let us know any problems that you experience.

If people decide to run these servers on stable IPs, we can discuss making a list of available pong server and other improvements.

Note that this is experimental code with no warranty.
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Anybody out there who has done this on a Mac before?
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Old September 11th, 2002
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sangony, are you looking to run one or just play with one?

If you are looking to run one, look into GWebCache instead. Soon (hopefully) pong servers will be obsolete.
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Old September 12th, 2002
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I found that site too. Do you have any "user friendly" instructions on how to install and run on a Mac? I am looking to run one.
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