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Old December 4th, 2003
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Default Has Morpheus become unpopular?

I've noticed that there's been little activity on the Morpheus forum in recent months. Has Morpheus fallen out of favor for any particular reason? It seems to offer a greater selection of files than does LimeWire. I can connect to Morpheus, but can't download from it. (Please see my forum entry on this.) Is there a common belief that Morpheus is simply too buggy?
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Old December 4th, 2003
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I haven't checked your other post...

buuuut...
I don't really see how any one servlet can expect to get more results then any other when connected to the same network. Except in the case of clustering issues where you cannot expect to turn up results from hosts off your horizon which may be on other servlets all should perform roughly equal with similar searches. Even the clustering shouldn't affect it much, unless we assume that for whatever reasons people who use certain servlets have similar tastes in music. Which is doubtful.

I think there are several major reasons for morpheus' decline. One of course is that it is known to be buggy, but also as other clients improve and add new features certain clients may go through brief periods of decline. As well a lot of people base their client decisions off word of mouth and I haven't heard many good things about Morpheus lately. Shareaza seems to be leading in the race for new users, as well as Gnucleus and even Bearshare.

From a technical standpoint (which shouldn't account for very many users because most don't care about this stuff) I personally **hate** morpheus because so often people are running it in ultrapeer mode when they probably shouldn't be. I find that I am connecting to Morpheus ultrapeers far more often then I should based on the number I typically see as any other type of connection (as leaves, or even hosts downloading from me or uploading to me). The running as ultrapeers isn't really an issue, except it appears that most Morpheus ultrapeers do not allow many leaf connections, some have inadequate bandwidth to be ultrapeers, and there seems to be a lot more overhead in connections to them which I shouldn't be seeing (although I have heard that it was a known bug and has been or is being fixed).

Anyway, personally I'm not a very big fan of Morpheus but I understand that some people like it, and I'm not even sure if it is loosing users or not.
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Default Re: Has Morpheus become unpopular?

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I've noticed that there's been little activity on the Morpheus forum in recent months. Has Morpheus fallen out of favor for any particular reason? It seems to offer a greater selection of files than does LimeWire.
Yes I think so. Many people realized that Gnutella isn´t Fasttrack, many went back to Kazaa. The people who stayed within the Gnutella net tried a few other clients and saw that there are better ones without ads and other crapware.

As PapaSMURFFS said, Limewire and Morpheus are using the same network so you find the same files with both clients - I am not sure can you see in Morpheus from which client you are downloading? If not try one where you can see it (not Limewire or Bearshare they are clustering, they connect mainly to own nodes), you will see that there aren´t many Morpheus clients left.

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Old March 18th, 2004
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One reason that I personally don't use Morpheus is because it comes bundled with two really nasty pieces of spyware and hijackware. Check out www.doxdesk.com on the parasites page and check out the wurld parasite which comes bundled with Morpheus. Really Nasty.

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One reason that I personally don't use Morpheus is because it comes bundled with two really nasty pieces of spyware and hijackware.
Yes its true, but the question was "is Morpheus fallen out of favour recently". Morpheus bundled spyware before they switched to Gnutella.

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Actually the answer is yes.... and no. It has become very unpopular for those who know about p2p, but amongst beginners it is still very popular. It has thousands of downloads a week at download.com.

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Morpheus is still downloaded over 300,000 times a week, so it is still a very popular client, Morpheus' bundled adware isnt as bad compared to the likes of BearShare, iMesh, grokster and Kazaa. Morpheus is also the 3rd most downloaded program on the internet with over 122,000,000 downloads!
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... Morpheus' bundled adware isnt as bad compared to the likes of BearShare...
This 'statement' is absolutely incorrect.
You make this comment with what must be total ignorance of the subject.
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