Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Gnutella News and Gnutelliums Forums > General Gnutella / Gnutella Network Discussion
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts

General Gnutella / Gnutella Network Discussion For general discussion about Gnutella and the Gnutella network.
For discussion about a specific Gnutella client program, please post in one of the client forums above.


Welcome To Gnutella Forums

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, fun aspects such as the image caption contest and play in the arcade, and access many other special features after your registration and email confirmation. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! (click here) (Note: we use Yandex mail server so make sure yandex is not on your email filter or blocklist.) Confirmation emails might be found in your Junk folder, especially for Yahoo or GMail.

If you have any problems with the Gnutella Forum registration process or your Gnutella Forum account login, please contact us (this is not for program use questions.) Your email address must be legitimate and verified before becoming a full member of the forums. Please be sure to disable any spam filters you may have for our website, so that email messages can reach you.
Note: Any other issue with registration, etc., send a Personal Message (PM) to one of the active Administrators: Lord of the Rings or Birdy.

Once registered but before posting, members MUST READ the FORUM RULES (click here) and members should include System details - help us to help you (click on blue link) in their posts if their problem relates to using the program. Whilst forum helpers are happy to help where they can, without these system details your post might be ignored. And wise to read How to create a New Thread

Thank you

If you are a Spammer click here.
This is not a business advertising forum, all member profiles with business advertising will be banned, all their posts removed. Spamming is illegal in many countries of the world. Guests and search engines cannot view member profiles.



           Deutsch?              Español?                  Français?                   Nederlands?
   Hilfe in Deutsch,   Ayuda en español,   Aide en français et LimeWire en françaisHulp in het Nederlands

Forum Rules

Support Forums

Before you post to one of the specific Client Help and Support Conferences in Gnutella Client Forums please look through other threads and Stickies that may answer your questions. Most problems are not new. The Search function is most useful. Also the red Stickies have answers to the most commonly asked questions. (over 90 percent).
If your problem is not resolved by a search of the forums, please take the next step and post in the appropriate forum. There are many members who will be glad to help.
If you are new to the world of file sharing please do not be shy! Everyone was ‘new’ when they first started.

When posting, please include details for:
Your Operating System ....... Your version of your Gnutella Client (* this is important for helping solve problems) ....... Your Internet connection (56K, Cable, DSL) ....... The exact error message, if one pops up
Any other relevant information that you think may help ....... Try to make your post descriptive, specific, and clear so members can quickly and efficiently help you. To aid helpers in solving download/upload problems, LimeWire and Frostwire users must specify whether they are downloading a torrent file or a file from the Gnutella network.
Members need to supply these details >>> System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)


Moderators

There are senior members on the forums who serve as Moderators. These volunteers keep the board organized and moving.
Moderators are authorized to: (in order of increasing severity)
Move posts to the correct forums. Many times, members post in the wrong forum. These off-topic posts may impede the normal operation of the forum.
Edit posts. Moderators will edit posts that are offensive or break any of the House Rules.
Delete posts. Posts that cannot be edited to comply with the House Rules will be deleted.
Restrict members. This is one of the last punishments before a member is banned. Restrictions may include placing all new posts in a moderation queue or temporarily banning the offender.
Ban members. The most severe punishment. Three or more moderators or administrators must agree to the ban for this action to occur. Banning is reserved for very severe offenses and members who, after many warnings, fail to comply with the House Rules. Banning is permanent. Bans cannot be removed by the moderators and probably won't be removed by the administration.


The Rules

1. Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form. Topics discussing techniques for violating these laws and messages containing locations of web sites or other servers hosting illegal content will be silently removed. Multiple offenses will result in consequences. File names are not required to discuss your issues. If filenames are copyright then do not belong on these forums & will be edited out or post removed. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

2. Spamming and excessive advertising will not be tolerated. Commercial advertising is not allowed in any form, including using in signatures.

3. There will be no excessive use of profanity in any forum.

4. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults, or any other personal attacks.

5. Pictures may be attached to posts and signatures if they are not sexually explicit or offensive. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

6. Remember to post in the correct forum. Take your time to look at other threads and see where your post will go. If your post is placed in the wrong forum it will be moved by a moderator. There are specific Gnutella Client sections for LimeWire, Phex, FrostWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Morpheus, and many more. Please choose the correct section for your problem.

7. If you see a post in the wrong forum or in violation of the House Rules, please contact a moderator via Private Message or the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of every post. Please do not respond directly to the member - a moderator will do what is required.

8. Any impersonation of a forum member in any mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result in banning.

9. Multiple copies of the same post will not be tolerated. Post your question, comment, or complaint only once. There is no need to express yourself more than once. Duplicate posts will be deleted with little or no warning. Keep in mind a forum censor may temporarily automatically hold up your post, if you do not see your post, do not post again, it will be dealt with by a moderator within a reasonable time. Authors of multiple copies of same post may be dealt with by moderators within their discrete judgment at the time which may result in warning or infraction points, depending on severity as adjudged by the moderators online.

10. Posts should have descriptive topics. Vague titles such as "Help!", "Why?", and the like may not get enough attention to the contents.

11. Do not divulge anyone's personal information in the forum, not even your own. This includes e-mail addresses, IP addresses, age, house address, and any other distinguishing information. Don´t use eMail addresses in your nick. Reiterating, do not post your email address in posts. This is for your own protection.

12. Signatures may be used as long as they are not offensive or sexually explicit or used for commercial advertising. Commercial weblinks cannot be used under any circumstances and will result in an immediate ban.

13. Dual accounts are not allowed. Cannot explain this more simply. Attempts to set up dual accounts will most likely result in a banning of all forum accounts.

14. Video links may only be posted after you have a tally of two forum posts. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam.

15. Failure to show that you have read the forum rules may result in forum rules breach infraction points or warnings awarded against you which may later total up to an automatic temporary or permanent ban. Supplying system details is a prerequisite in most cases, particularly with connection or installation issues.

Violation of any of these rules will bring consequences, determined on a case-by-case basis.


Thank You! Thanks for taking the time to read these forum guidelines. We hope your visit is helpful and mutually beneficial to the entire community.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
et voilà's Avatar
+Modérateur à ses heures+
 
Join Date: July 26th, 2002
Location: Le Québec
Posts: 2,904
et voilà is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

Yes Morgwen, many still don't know and 90% is accurate. But people learn from errors and I'm sure the amount of money made over spyware is going down. And I really thing that putting spyware in LW or any other app is shooting themselves in their foot, because less people wil want to try these apps and less people will pay for a pro version for exemple. (this is really bad marketing from LW kazaa etc...)

For Morgwen:
And I use Gnutella (the protocol) because it is open source.

Ciao
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by et voilà
But people learn from errors and I'm sure the amount of money made over spyware is going down.
Some people learn from errors, many don´t know the spyware, the most people do not browse sharing forums (only if they have a problem, they ask get help and never come back). How should these people know about the "errors"? Also a problem is that people tend to forget...

I hope the money of spyware is going down.

btw is the PRO version using Limeshop? If so it would really suck because the user paid for a "clean" version and has now stealware on his computer.

Quote:
And I really thing that putting spyware in LW or any other app is shooting themselves in their foot
NO, sure not... at the beginning I thought the same. The reality is the most people don´t know or don´t care about it. The people see only the BIG advertisements (which are paid with dirty money) from LW and Bearshare and their slogans we are the best. The truth is for every user they loose they have three or four new, yes you can make a lot of money with spyware and stealing...

Quote:
because less people wil want to try these apps and less people will pay for a pro version for exemple
I have to wonder how many people pay for LW, because there are "free" and "clean" versions out there, you can tell this to the users and they are still buying LW - perhaps they don´t believe its the same??? Many people don´t know what Gnutella is and that there are other clients, many users think "hey I paid for LW now I am allowed to download music" and they are claiming about the speed! They don´t realize that the music is coming from private users and not from BIG and FAST LW servers...

What I am trying to say is the most users don´t know enough about computers and Internet to see the risks and understand what is going on, they believe into the advertisement and pay for the clients... ah yes and the users are lazy - why should I try an other client when my client is running?

Believe me the people will pay!

Morgwen
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
deepblue's Avatar
Flag Burner
 
Join Date: August 15th, 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 751
deepblue is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

That is my exact point, LW (and others) are stealing from those who don't know what is going on. They dont find out that paying for these things don't do any good until they've already spent a lot of money. Some developers really care, but most are greedy, stealing f**ks! Sad but true.
__________________
Get Firefox!

"THEY WHO WOULD GIVE UP AN ESSENTIAL LIBERTY FOR TEMPORARY SECURITY, DESERVE NEITHER LIBERTY OR SECURITY."
--Benjamin Franklin
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
deepblue's Avatar
Flag Burner
 
Join Date: August 15th, 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 751
deepblue is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

This world would be a much better place if people were honest wouldent it? Thank all of you for the input.

deepblue
__________________
Get Firefox!

"THEY WHO WOULD GIVE UP AN ESSENTIAL LIBERTY FOR TEMPORARY SECURITY, DESERVE NEITHER LIBERTY OR SECURITY."
--Benjamin Franklin
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
Software Developer
 
Join Date: November 4th, 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 1,366
sberlin is flying high
Default

FYI: TopMoxie has informed us that their software (branded as LimeShop) no longer changes the affiliate. That means that if someone goes to a website which has links marking them as the affiliate, they will stay the affiliate. It has been this way for quite awhile now.

LimeShop is not spyware. It does nothing nefarious. It merely reminds/asks LimeWire users to support LimeWire when they visit one of our select affiliate partners. That's all.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
iggeydog
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Unhappy

ok, i am one of the stupid ones out here, don't really know what you guys are talking about, but one question...what is the difference between LW (and i am assuming that LW stands for Limewire) and gnutella (sp)? i thought they were the same.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
et voilà's Avatar
+Modérateur à ses heures+
 
Join Date: July 26th, 2002
Location: Le Québec
Posts: 2,904
et voilà is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

À iggeydog: Gnutella is an open protocol (i.e for searching) used by many applications (Bearshare, LW, GTK-Gnutella, Phex etc...), it is designed by all vendors there: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/the_gdf/ while Limewire is an open software that uses that protocol (user interface and many features) and is designed there http://www.limewire.org

À Sam Berlin: well, you should encourage users go pro to support your business, 95% of users don't want a tierce application that seek their web shopping habit and take 4% of processor when safari is open (limeshop on os x....). Plus I tracked your # of downloads on download.com and the number of dls (200 000 per week better than 100 000 per week just 6 months ago) is enough high to ensure profitability for a shareware with the crew size of LW. I won't tell you how to make business but I know that mac users will migrate to acqlite, acquisition and poisoned once LW ship 3.8 with limeshop. (it is already happening @ macnn.com http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?threadid=195695 and @ macupdate http://macupdate.com/info.php/id/6474). Please take that in consideration, you could even use the fact that there is no spyware on your site to get more users. The new way of forming a P2P is developpers listening to the users, not the P2P exploiting its users.

À bon entendeur,
Ciao
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by sberlin
LimeShop is not spyware. It does nothing nefarious. It merely reminds/asks LimeWire users to support LimeWire when they visit one of our select affiliate partners. That's all.
Yes right its stealware. Why don´t the users know that Limewishop redirect (or has redirected) links from other websites? Why did a mod edited Adam replies to that issue? Yes you want that the people support LW and what is whith the people who thought they are going to support a websites they like and Limewishop stole the link?

Quote:
TopMoxie has informed us that their software (branded as LimeShop) no longer changes the affiliate.
It doesn´t make things better that Limeshop isn´t redirecting the links anymore (at least not much), LW knew it from the beginning and you didn´t care... so you support stealing the links!

I alos remember this clicktillyouwin virus, LW knew there is a virus instead of removing the add at once they tried to find a fix for it, and meanwhile they spread this virus... so its OK what the third companies are doing as long as they pay?

btw are you an official LW employee or are you a co coder?

Morgwen
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
Software Developer
 
Join Date: November 4th, 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 1,366
sberlin is flying high
Default

>LW knew it from the beginning and you didn´t care... so you support stealing the links!

As I recall, the moment the issue was brought to LimeWire's attention, we brought it to TopMoxie's attention and told them to fix it. After some development time (of them fixing it) they told us it was fixed.

>LW knew there is a virus instead of removing the add at once they tried to find a fix for it

I remember reading about the clicktilluwin problem, and it affected LOTS of companies. LimeWire removed the offending program as soon as it was identified as the cause.

>btw are you an official LW employee or are you a co coder?

You can see the employees at http://www.limewire.com/english/content/team.shtml , where you'll notice my name.

I was not with LimeWire for the above incidents, but I did actively read the message forums and watch related news, and I am well aware of the responses from both the developers and users.
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old January 8th, 2004
Moderator
 
Join Date: May 16th, 2003
Posts: 1,118
trap_jaw4 is flying high
Default

sberlin = Sam Berlin
http://www.limewire.com/english/content/team.shtml
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Phex @ 2006 SourceForge.net Community Choice Award GregorK General Discussion 4 March 20th, 2006 01:08 PM
Exciting! - A private folder accessable only by trusted users lassie General Gnutella Development Discussion 5 August 20th, 2005 05:58 AM
Who is the winner of the 2001 Gnutella Research Contest? anti-bearshare Open Discussion topics 1 September 8th, 2001 10:20 AM
More Explosive Gnutella Growth gbildson General Gnutella / Gnutella Network Discussion 0 March 14th, 2001 07:54 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.