bobby, I COMPLETELY agree!
he says he deleted it right away...even if he deleted it out of his limewire library, wouldnt it have, at the very least, not been shared anymore? It just seems odd that they would go after him "about a year later"(with out any other occasions of him sharing illegal images), and STILL slap him with jail time and make him register as a sex offender. Whats even weirder to me is, they are charging him with possession...i don't think they could do that if he really couldnt access the files him self..i mean they could have charged him with creating(when the image shows up on your screen) but not possession...and too true, every case i've seen where someone got busted for having these files on the gnutella network, got busted for sharing them. i don't think downloading a few and deleting them asap would really count as sharing, ecspecially when they would have "bigger fish" sharing a ton of files with out any discretion.

Over the past few years many have come here and complained about accidently downloading CP (and often demanding that Limewire do something about it). Indeed, this thread is 34 pages!

Never heard of any of them getting busted. The FBI didn't come after me, and I got a couple of CP files that were mis-named. Another file I downloaded by accident was actually labeled PTHC and turned out to be a Betty Boop cartoon. I changed the name and kept the file.

To the FBI: The disk with the CP crashed so I got a new computer and recycled the old one. And I am certain Ms Boop was over 18 when she made the film.

I've engaged a few people in this thread, including a monitor, in conversation about getting investigated by police and other agencies.

When actually asked for details of past arrests the monitor finally had to admit he fabricated or enhanced stories to scare people away from downloading porn. He actually scared the wits out of some 16 yo who came here for advise on how to permanently get rid of a file and had the kid looking down the block for cop cars.

It's clear that the cops at all levels of government are after the uploaders as that's where the money is. The only guy I heard about being busted for downloading was doing it in a public library.

The only reason I monitor this thread is to make sure more kids don't have the crap scared out of them and fortunately I haven't see any such activity in over a year.

You know OC

As a person that has always favoured education and knowledge over fear and ignorance, which can be used as tools for bullying, I believe that this "monitor" is wrong in his approach.

Using fear to scare youngsters looking for help and reassurance could have all sorts of unforeseen consequences, some of which could be far worse then a kid giving himself up to the cops.


UK Bob

IC Orange is whining yet again...and he/she/it is exaggerating/falsifying the facts..

this 'conversation' he/she/it refers to dates to ca. July, 2008...

OC was warned about his/her/its ranting and such during that period of time (yep, I've got all the PMs to prove it)...

I'll stand by my thoughts that a little dose of fear is not a bad thing....let's face it, its illegal and even if gotten by mistake it needs to be burned off of a HDD and the lesson learned...even knowing the lesson one might still mistakenly acquire illegal files, but a lesson learned is a lesson learned...there's an old saying....'curiosity killed the cat'...file names that indicate illegal pron should not incite a state of 'curiosity', neh?

you keep up your krap OC and we will ban you this time as opposed to warning you like in the past....

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UK Bob,

I have always held to my motto: Educate, don't legislate!

When presented with all the facts, most people will choose the correct course. Many vice behaviors are unlawful; yet the law discourages few. When people learn why something is wrong, laws become unnceessary.

Some educators have begun teaching Internet Etiquette, which includes warnings against satisfying one's curiosity, as Peerless mentioned. (I think the course should be titled Internet Ethics. But alas, the teaching of Ethics in high school was dropped long ago.)

Haha..Betty Boop..that made my day..lol.

Anyways, I really do hope that this kid is full of it..i really do hope they wouldnt go after someone with so little evidence(calling someone a peadophile is a big deal, not something that i would imagine anyone would do so in a manner of assumption)..do you think it's possible that he maybe searched for it out of curiosity, downloaded a few videos, saw them, delelted them, never did it again, but that was all it took? I know they usually catch people sharing the files, but could it be possible that they knew he searched for it and downloaded it? I havent seen any case where they went after someone because they saw they were searching for it, but hey you never know..

Are you that small peer? You have to ban dissent? Others here agree that honest replies work more than empty threats. Like Blackhorse and ukbobboy said education is king. If expressing an opinion that your tact is wrong headed is all it takes to get me banned then do so. I've said it before and I'll say it again - scaring a kid does far more harm than good. Its far better to tell the truth. Then when the truth really is scary they'll listen.

It's exactly the same as drug use. Tell them the truth and likely as not they'll leave it alone. The truth is scary enough all by itself.

That kid we disagreed about didn't need scaring. He was already scared. All he wanted was advise on how to get rid of the stuff he already didn't want.

If this opinion is so scary to you then I guess this will be my last post.

yep....enjoy it...

people ought to know better than you light a match next to a can of gasoline...sheeshus...

secondly said people should also be aware that there are consequences to lying...

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i recently gave my computer to the police in which they found 5 cp videos. I had not been sharing them to my knowledge, and i didnt know of them. I have a pornography addiction (diagnosed professionally) and there was around 400 videos and 600 pictures. Think of my addiction as a hoarding addiction to pornography. I only watched around 20 videos, the same ones, but would spend hours (around 4 a day) mass downloading.
Even though i do have a problem, which i am in counseling for, and the videos werent watched i believe they will still come at me full force.
Its been about 3 weeks since they had it, i contacted a lawyer and ready to fight.
If anyone has any tips or advice for me, please...