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Let's hope reason prevails when they see no indications your son actually wanted that stuff. Shame on the *******s who pushed ahead on this even though they had no corroborating evidence. They were obviously only thinking of their own political fortunes. |
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OMG I cannot beleive you just said that I have had so many people say the same thing-- not that it makes a difference since they did decide to arraign him 1 year to the day that they arested him=strange again. thank you thank you for taking the time to reply to me because you can imagine as a Mom I am hysterical especially since this is the first time either of my kids has ever been in trouble : |
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illegal porn Just a note to people deleting stuff that they download accidentally. Personally I would remove the hard drive, get the largest hammer I could find break it open and destroy the disks, then throw them into the nearest, biggest, deepest ocean/lake I could find. Only then I would sleep just a little better at night. I hope I have not trivialized the subject with the above comment but I feel that is the length you have to go to. This stuff destroyes your mind with worry. Murderers get shown more pity -compassion than a person caught with this stuff for some strange reason, no matter how they aquired it, not that I say its necessarily right but thats the tragedy of it, if you are found to have it or you may not even know its there you are doomed if caught. There will be innocent people of all ages out there now not knowing it may be lurking on their computer in some form or other. It may be hard to differentiate between these people so law eforcement probably think sod it, do them all best safe than sorry. Do they let people off if they can tell it was an accidental download? or do you get done regardless. I cant bear the thought of an person accidentally downloading it and jailed for it, terrible. I dont know if i could trust an eraser to do it properly. Systems seem capable of squirreling stuff away into the depths of computers that no normal person or erasers may normally find. well thats my garbled waffle on the subject, after my similar experiances as that of many other people in this forum, this is only limewire what of the many people using other file share applications, or am I just overeacting. Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), combating child abuse images and criminal material online http://www.ic3.gov/ |
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I'm using mcAfee shredder tool to delete everything i remove, is this adequate in regard to above?? |
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My little advice for anyone in the future. If should you inadvertently downloaded one of the mislabeled files which turned to be a child pornography material - please immediately report it to the Cybertipline and law enforcements. The computer crime investigator at my local police department (He is also part of my local county's procuestor office's computer crime unit) strongly recommend it to anyone. It happened to me once before in the past and I did what they recommended. Not reporting it is very worse thing that anyone could do in that situation, so please do the right thing. They will know what to do when you report to it and you wouldn't have to worry about get in the trouble because you reported. Please report it or contact the proper authorities so you could get these sick scums off the P2P networks and internet. Recommendations by many organizations including FBI which I posted in another thread awhile ago - http://www.gnutellaforums.com/282823-post27.html Last edited by DarkStorm2; August 21st, 2007 at 05:03 AM. |
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The very idea that the state requires you to become involved as an informant or else be falsely branded a sex offender is utterly unconscionable. In states where prosecutors are elected the danger that a prosecutor would commit such a crime is very real and has been reported to occur more than once in the past few years. None of these cases were as famous as the crime committed against the lacrosse players at Duke U, but that is mostly because this is the kind of thing that is typically done in the dark, out of the press and public scrutiny, as both the falsely accused and the criminal accuser want it that way. Currently there is no safe way to submit an anonymous tip, and if you try to do so while maintaining your anonymity you face the strong possibility of the above crime being committed against you. Not all prosecutors behave in that way, but in governments where they are rewarded for doing so, some will indeed do so and are criminal enough at heart or are so blinded by the horror of kiddy porn that they feel no remorse for their crimes. Until that situation changes for the better I suggest that one either jump in or jump away. If you want to be an activist then go right ahead and take your chances. Just be sure they always know you are "on their side" even if it becomes obvious you inadvertantly turned in another innocent victim of a mislabelled file, or you may end up on the receiving end along with your victim. In light of this ridiculous situation the most responsible and safest course at present, if you accidentally downloaded a file of that kind, is to delete it securely and move on. As always, I suggest in the strongest terms that it is best to avoid sharing incomplete downloads and your downloads folder. If what you share is always under your complete control than this horror story can never happen to you. I have always advised the developers of gnutella programs that automatically sharing files before a user can check them is dangerous for many reasons but they always dismissed such warnings because "it's good for the network". Well, now some years have passed and we have seen some of these false prosecutions, many examples of RIAA extortion against people who didn't know what they were sharing, the rampant spread of worms and spammers taking advantage of inadvertent sharing to flood the network and accusations levelled against the developers themselves of inducing copyright infringement by causing this inadvertent sharing. Perhaps now they will take another look and think it through this time. |
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