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It's probably every six months actually. Polk County, FL. This story is only a few months old but the local links are dead.

ABC News: The Many Faces of Child Porn Suspects

Thanks for that virtualcoder. The sheriff was deliberately vague about what, where, when and how in that article. But no doubt he made the arrests. A Google search turns up more facts**. These guys were following invitations from "girls" they met on line. You may have heard about adults posing as girls on Facebook, You Tube and etc. Initially the sting was organized by a TV show but all those cases were thrown out. The TV crew was operating with the approval of the local cops and baited the guys in. Its called entrapment.

Now in Polk County Florida the sheriff did the same as you've pointed out. After the arrests of the guys who showed up at the "girls" home to have sex they were arrested and their homes searched where the computers were found. Presumably the sheriff was smart enough to not entrap these guys. Undoubtedly they'll make that claim and the court will have to make a decision.

Back to our situation. Chatting up a girl in some chat room, suggesting that they have sex and actually showing up often with a bottle of booze in hand is a far cry from accidently downloading and erasing an errant file.

I'm unbent. Unless laws change (including the Constitution) you're not going to get busted for download and erase. And I think you and the others should be upfront with people who come here scared out of their wits because they saw a picture of a naked 3 year old and are now worried sick the cops are driving up the street right this instant.

Peerless have you found that "a" I hid?

** Undercover Internet Sting Nabs Eleven Men for Traveling to Polk to Have Sex With Children « Inside Poinciana Florida

yeah...it was tucked away in a .txt file in your system32/dllcache folder....

you're riding in a sinking boat d00d....get real and stop arguing with facts....and yes, it is not very often that such technology is used to get data back, but it can be, and that is the argument...

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Should I just make the argument up then? Oh I get it. I should stop argueing against your "facts". I thought you were saying I should stop using facts in my arguments. Silly me.

That technology you're talking about can, with luck, pull up a partial file thats been written over once or perhaps twice. The CIA may fire a guy over something like that but law enforcement will need a lot more.


You guys should be upfront with people coming here scared out of their wits. They downloaded and erased a picture of a 3 year old kid and now think the cops are coming down the street any second now.

Tell them to erase it and move on with their life.

I'll be upfront with... It's ALL a Crock of BullSh!t.
We've used LW for about 3 Years now and have NEVER "Mistakenly" OOPS!!!! Downloaded CP. If you have, then You're an _ _ _ _ _
What a Load of CraP.
Ya'll are a bunch of Freaks that could'nt resist the temptation, and now we're supposed to feel Sorry for You. HA HA HA!!!!!!!
If Johnny Law a comes a knockin', then thats something You will have to Deal with.
You made your Perverted Bed and Now You have to Lay in it.
If this is the Kind of Bullsh!t you seek, then You get what you Deserve.

This Thread is Getting Very old with the same ol' SOb Stories. Get Over It Already!!!!!! Freaks

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if you take the time to read this overly long thread in full you will see that I do advise overwriting files when needed...this will make them go away as best as can be done....BUT...they are still there if one wants to spend the time and money (and its really not all that much when taken in the big picture) to get at them...its not star trek technology (which is of course at this time fiction), its real technology out there right now...let's say you were a political figure and someone was out to get you...they knew you did such things and were out to prove it...they could if they got a hold the your HDD...are you getting my drift, or do I need to pull out a sledgehammer and beat it into your skull?

@Remoc....it is possible to mistakenly download such stuff...misnamed files, files with names such as DSCN_1023..yep, I've come across a few with names like that when I'm blindly downloading images just for giggles to see what's out there...I have to say you would be surprised at some of the images people have in their shares (probably because they allowed LW to search their drive for media files to share)...the heart of your response is correct, but I just want to make it clear that it is possible to end up with a nasty file by total mistake...

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I'm afraid its possible Remok. I downloaded what I thought was a cartoon and got one. You might say I should have used "Preview" but that wouldn't help. Why? Because now the preview and incomplete file are in there. Either you stop downloading images and videos or you are at some risk.

I came here to get help and was accosted by paragons of virtue like you. After listening to your rants I got my toothbrush figuering Johnny Law was turning onto my street about then. While waiting I did more research and found that even if I left it unerased the cops will need more information about who I am.

Here's a short list of situations I remember pedos being caught:

Being seen downloading onto a CD at a public library.
Bragging to other idiots at a bar.
Lured by adults into thinking they had a teen ready for sex and showed up.
Buying CP off a web site using a credit card.
Public nudity, kidnapping and inappropriate physical or verbal contact with a child.
Unrelated crimes that caused the law to invade a home with a sparked interest in the computer.

Its obvious you've got to get the authorities attention before coming under scrutiny and all you're doing is scaring law abiding decent young guys unnecessarily.

Peerless I don't think Obama has downloaded CP here. The guys you're addressing don't read the whole thread. They come here and you and guys like Remod scare them into a panic. If you repeated your qualifying remarks like you just made I'd have fewer objections.

It is possible that I will be hit by a bus. But I can't let that stop me from going to work. Nor should I let one overwritten file push me into physically destroying my hard drive. I hope thats an appropriate analogy.

I'll be here from now on the same way you are and will try to moderate the shrill bombastic chest beaters like Rebok who inform 14 year old kids their life is effectively ruined now that they've peeked at the forbidden. They are the same type of people who 100 years ago told kids they were going to go blind if they masturbated.

be very very careful when insulting a mod orangeboy...very careful....you might find that another mod (like me) will step right in and put a stop to it before the offended mod gets a chance to deal with it for him/herself

Obama?..more like that nasty republican McCain....definitely Bush/Cheney!

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Please get the tempers down again.

People who come here mostly are already scared, and we give them advice what they can do which can work.

I won't go telling someone "just erase the file, then you're safe", if I know that to be wrong.

I prefer saying
"First: calm down. You're not likely to get into problems.
Second: If you want to delete the file, do it right."

Followed by an explanation, how to do it right, and what risks remain.

And playing with the names of others is a definite act of aggression.

And while I'm at it:
Never EVER open a site in freenet which has a name similar to a certain widespread PnP RPG. That's how easy it is to see really bad files by accident.

Best wishes,
Arne

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