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View Poll Results: Do you accept spyware?
Yes 9 6.72%
No 122 91.04%
Spyware, what??? 3 2.24%
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Old December 5th, 2001
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I don't even care whether THEY see me or not. It's not like I tried to hide.

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John if you believe they are harmful, I know thousands of people who said they "might" be really dangerous... and many of this people arenīt idiots, some of them are really good programmers...


Yes, - they *might* be. And Windows XP *might* contain a backdoor for the NSA.

That is the difference between possibility and fact. Any possible danger you see in Gator (&c) also applies to any other internet related software. Gator is not the devil and it is as much of a security risk as any other internet related applications (including ICQ or Morpheus for example).
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John, I wonder if you ever met Kultus, Sephiroth, anti-bearshare? I think about casting all of you for the second part of the story. *g*
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I don't like the fact that I know spyware is running on my PC, but it's the price to pay for free programs, I guess.
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John, I wonder if you ever met Kultus, Sephiroth, anti-bearshare? I think about casting all of you for the second part of the story. *g*
Don't test my sKillZ, man!
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Don't test my sKillZ, man!
Calm down John...

You say your opinion and Moak says his...

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But sometimes I think the same like Moak...
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I don't like the fact that I know spyware is running on my PC, but it's the price to pay for free programs, I guess.
No!

Linux is free... without spyware...

and many others sharing progs...

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Well linux is without *spyware* (or adware) for now (if you don't count opera), but I don't think that will last forever.
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Well linux is without *spyware* (or adware) for now (if you don't count opera), but I don't think that will last forever.
John!

It will! Because Linux its developed by hundreds of developers all over the world in their free time... if there will be a "spyware" linux version, I have to smile... I will switch to another distrubution or I will ask a friend to compile it!

You know Linux is open source its allowed to compile it, as it allowed for Limewire... and we say the people there is spyware into, donīt use the offical version - use compiled versions...

So John now tell me why should I use "spytools" infested open source products?

Let me repeat we inform the people...

and they choose the way...

The Limewire version of Linux is free, and the Windows version donīt work without (only a compiled version! )...

So tell me John why should the Windows user pay your software, and why donīt you pay for it?

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It will! Because Linux its developed by hundreds of developers all over the world in their free time... if there will be a "spyware" linux version, I have to smile... I will switch to another distrubution or I will ask a friend to compile it!
Wrong. Linux is the kernel. Just the kernel and nothing more. Little companies producing pretty useless programms with lots of ads just haven't discovered Linux as a platform.

I can't look at the source code of any linux app (borlands kylix for example) nor is there always a open-source version available. - Basically it would be possible to create commercial versions of Linux, sth like a Microsoft Linux (Windows XP is based on a BSD kernel which is more or less a linux-cousin).

As long linux has got a small market-share, companies sometimes give linux versions of their software away for free, but if that ever changed (for example if linux had a market-share of 10% of the desktops), they would consider making money with linux products and they would also write adware/spyware for linux.
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Good that we have GNU and many different open source movements together with a high count of alternative free software! Free of spyware and marketing promises.
Btw I thought XP is based on Win NT/2000 kernel and only winsock(2) is "borrowed" from BSD networking code?
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