OpenSource P2P Net Discussion Thread

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Two information:
1. Developers as Viniie care about $$$, not about Gnutella.
2. VIP Bearshare trolls as Sephiroth care about propaganda, not about real information.

If you don't agree, we can talk about this two points.

That is not information, that is conjecture.

And right now you are the one trolling.

Don't force your opinion to others!

Perhaps you may think Vinnie is not harming Gnutella and most Bearshare VIPs are not distributing Bearshare propaganda... okay, you're right.. but come with arguments, not calling someone a troll. If you don't discuss, but hide behind a pseudo intelectuel neutrality without naming content, then you're just arrogant. If you want an exchange of informations and arguments, open your mind.

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Don't force your opinion to others!

So far this is all you've tried to do. You haven't given anything real to discuss. Instead you've just bitched without giving any real argument or content.

Everything users say is not worth it or anything real to discuss about? Open your mind a little bit more, try it? Perhaps then you can understand other opinions and talk with someone NOT against someone.

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Everything users say is not worth it or anything real to discuss about? Open your mind a little bit more, try it? Perhaps then you can understand other opinions and talk with someone NOT against someone.

Well you still haven't actually said anything.

Don't get me wrong, you've whined plenty. But you haven't given any evidence or content to back it up. So you still haven't put anything out there to really discuss.

Maybe it is your mind which is closed.

[Sephiroth]

Originally posted by Unregistered

Sephiroth wisdom: "The users choose which ones survive and which ones fail thats the "invisible hand" at work.. "
OK, so you do agree with us!

No not really. I think that gnuella is doing fine the way it is, you are not forced to use a commerical programs, you can still download off commerical programs and likewise, documentation and information is freely avaible to anyone and all are welcomed to talk about gnutella improvements on the gdf if they so choose so...

I dont see where the problem is. Your complaining because other people choose to use a commerical program? So you want to get rid of the commerical programs and force people to use all open source or non-commerical programs... How is taking choices away from the user by limiting or even getting rid of programs fair to anyone?

Every problem on gnutella cant be solved by throwing "free-code" at it.. Remember only the best programs surivive the bad ones dont.. Truely bad programs shouldnt be expected to be contantly stringed along by other good ones.. Instead the bad programs should improve and compete with the better ones to draw users or fail..

Look at the internet before it was commerized.. Do you really think that you would be able to do everything you do on the web now if it had stayed non-commerical/educational? I think not. Without commerical companies you wouldnt even have the PC...

As for unregistered people. I dont take insults/accusations from "unregistered" people seriously especially since all they want to do is start trouble and anyone intelligent wouldnt take them seriously anyways.. so why should i.

I dont hate morgwen. If he wants to make an ** of himself then fine im not him so i dont really care.. If thats how he chooses to express himself then thats his choice, im not going to take him seriously and over time i dont think that others will take him seriously either..

Sephiroth, we all know what a looser you are!

Go back to bearshare.net and tell your lies there!

[mrgone4662]

Quote the "lie", explain why you think it is a lie, give your version of the truth, and site and post links to your proof.

If not you don't have a leg to stand on.

[Morgwen]

Originally posted by Sephiroth

Remember only the best programs surivive the bad ones dont.. Truely bad programs shouldnt be expected to be contantly stringed along by other good ones.. Instead the bad programs should improve and compete with the better ones to draw users or fail..

Not the best ones survive, the clients with the most money survive!

Xolox was the best Gnutella client and this client didn´t survive because the developers had no money!

Yes all developers can bundle spyware and hire more devlopers and claim then they are the best!

Morgwen

[mrgone4662]

Originally posted by Morgwen


Not the best ones survive, the clients with the most money survive!

Xolox was the best Gnutella client and this client didn´t survive because the developers had no money!

Yes all developers can bundle spyware and hire more devlopers and claim then they are the best!

Morgwen

Keep in mind that "best" is still a matter of opinion.

Xolox was the best Gnutella client and it is still in wide use, hence it's not quite dead yet.

That the developer has not enough money to continue it means that with improvements made to other clients Xolox will cease to be one of the best.

Hence, the death of xolox will come not directly from not having money but from the process of not-having-money > to no-longer-being-improved > to falling-behind-in-relative-quality > to no-longer-being-the-best > to death.

The ability to hire full time developers to work on a piece of software isn't a bad thing. You are more likely to get a better product that is upgraded more frequently out of it.

Anyone can claim to be the best, but what matters is if their users are happy with the product. If the users aren't happy, they won't keep using it, then the product will die. If the users are happy, then something is being done right, and the product will live (maybe even making to the "best" catagory).