OpenSource P2P Net Discussion Thread

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Listen.

We don't care who likes who or who hates who. We don't care what you think is the best or worst client.

We DO care what you think makes a particular client good or bad.

We DO care WHY you think it is a good or bad idea to split off a project to block commercial clients. But we don't care if all you think is 'it's bad'. And we don't want to see EITHER unresearched bullshit or blatant lies.

<A HREF="http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=358">Bearshare takes up bandwidth sending messages which do not fit the protocol specs, masquerading as Queries and Query Hits. Non-bearshare clients just pass these on.</A> Why? Why not drop any malformed message such as these?

These packets ARE NOT documented. Mr Gone, you either don't know what you are talking about, ***. Sephiroph, same deal. Quite possibly these packets are collecting aggregate information which the Bearshare users have not been properly informed of (I haven't read the license).

But Vinnie's story does not hold water - one minute they're for distributing version information (why?) and the next they're for telling about how many files the user shares ... why aren't they in clear text? Or RLE, if it's really about size? Or at least documented, if they're such an improvement.

Why not block clients which block clients? Bearshare supposedly keeps a port reserved for bearshare clients. I.E. it is blocking non-bearshare clients. Why shouldn't we block it in return?

By changing our connect string, any properly behaving client should NOT allow us to connect. Some posters here seem to think we are getting the best of both worlds, we are not. We are trying to totally separate ourselves from the Gnutella netork, but continue using and developing the protocol so that all users can get the benefit of any code we develop.

If you can point out where our traffic is leaking into the Gnutella network, or vice versa, please do. Otherwise, refrain from claiming that we are affecting Gnutella's network in any way whatsoever.

Please do not troll, please do not feed the trolls. This forum is not professional at all, and gives a bed image to gnutella development (if that is possible after the advent of Vinnie.)

Morgwen, a moderator is not supposed to get knee-deep fighting for one side or another. At the most you should be filtering out swear words and things like that. If you want to fight, you should give up your moderator job.

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