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Old March 30th, 2002
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No my defination of a fair and open gnuella is more like a "market system." I think ive been pretty clear only mentioning it in just about every post in this thread..

Programs are not ment to be equal. Get that in your head. There will always be good and bad programs. Why should the bad programs be allowed to survive? If they cant attrach users to use it then why is it other programs responisbility to bail them out and throw "free code" at the problem and how it sloves itself?

As for your comments on bearshare. I think bearshare has the right and freedom to do what you described. Really your not paying the bills to keep the host cache online nor do you have any right to tell anyone how to run their program.

You are not a gnutella developer your not even a programmer, and even so its not your problem. I think if it really was a problem im sure that the other developers would have spoken up by now.. right? Because i dont think that they need you looking out for their interest thats really their own responisbility..

And no you didnt comment on why its ok for a program like openp2pnet to block gnutella programs and how that make gnutella fair and open..

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Originally posted by Moak
Seph, your definition of a fair and open gnutella means Bearshare is the only glory and can plunder Gnutella aggresive without reaction? We are only defending ourselfs, that's what fairness contains. I'm sorry too, but please complain at Vinnie's table. If Bearshare wants to be treated as a fair Gnutella client again, okay, then follow the rules and treat other clients equal again. Gnutella is not a two class community where Bearshare is the master and all others are minors.

As for me telling about "baseless accusations", "exgerations" and "speculations", I feel those are terms much better suited to the closed and proprietary world of Bearshare. Here again what are facts: Bearshare comes with proprietary Gnutella packages, proprietary v0.6 headers, clustering BS clients, prefering BS clients, changing host caches without notice, blocking v0.4 clients without technical reasons, e.g. Xolox. Ask the GDF if something is not understood or not true in your eyes, they will confirm it. Well, perhaps I forgot some of the newest Bearshare Gnutella plundering additions.

Moak

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