In the past Limewire has installed spyware without asking - it still does - and it will do in the future, if users do not complain. No matter what nice words the PR is telling afterwards, investigate and check Limewire against spyware. Sooner or later Limewire has gone trough all existing spyware and scumware. Nice history so far! To keep yourself uptodate with what's missing:

http://www.simplythebest.net/info/spyware.html
http://www.computerevidencerecovery.com/startprog.htm
Brand new spyware, soon in a Limewire next to you!

Btw, someone should document which spyware has been installed from Limewire and Bearshare so far, which were without asking the users?

This openp2p net thing is notorious for offtopic discusions!

I splitted the thread and took out the TopMoxie discussion and moved it here:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=10733

Morgwen

Unregistered!

Can you please repost it in the new thread!

I think I was a little to slow, or you to fast!

Morgwen

Did you know that installing LimeWire leaves behind a program called "eTraffic" that spies on EVERYTHING you do on your computer? Uninstalling
LimeWire won't get rid of it, and it doesn't come with an uninstaller. It's disgusting that this is even legal.

Taken from http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articl...o/04212002a.php

Thx Afisk for your sincerity and integrity of information.

The RIAA loves these P2P corporations.
Here's the RIAA talking about a greedy P2P corp that is having a little problem with their spyware revenue.
"It's refreshing to see they're interested in fighting for intellectual property," said Amanda Collins, a spokeswoman for the Recording Industry Association of America.

You can see how these corps will turn coat in a minute if it means losing $$$.

You people have to pick sides, either you are for the corporations, RIAA/MPAA and greed or you are not.

http://news.com.com/2100-1023-891724.html
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../04252002d.php

Greed sucks!

People get pissed off because of teh spy/ad ware exist in some Gnutella client software, in the meantime, the maker of those spy/ad ware are making money from Gnutella network's free resource. Wait ... from where?

Sometimes from observation, people tend to jump on the direct conclusion with the easiest express path. For instance, if you are running Bearshare with spyware, and donwloading file from my disk, the profit that you are making should have some share that I've contributed, or did I?

A simpliest question often forgotten to be asked: Why in hell do these user who more than likely already pissed off by the spyware and complaint all around the world, in real life, are still using Bearshare? Why didn't they switch over to these many other Gnutella client available on the earth? Did any of you who jump on the 'openxxx p2p' bandwagon ever bother to ask yourself this question?

Let me try this, the spyware is not exactly target to make profit from Gnutella share files, but rather attempt to exploit a way to sponsor the software development.

Now back to the question why those bearshare users are still using bearshare, it's simply because they like bearshare, period!!

This whole open Gnutella network brought us a good thing, that is anyone can develop a Gnutella client software, to offer to user for a choice. To use bearshare regardless the annoy spyware is truly a user choice. It can only because bearshare is better than other software in it's usability, connectivity, or whatever, that is in this user's view.

It's your choice to develop a better software to compete with bearrshare if you can, at any time. The fact is, most freebie are under developer's spare time work, often inferior to those back by some financial support.

To ban bearshare as well as any other software client with spyware will not stop developer's attempting to seek financial support as naturally they want to spend more time on it but also bring income by do that work, hope this is not something hard to understand.

The ideal result of course, is most of Gnutella developer join in one or a few of development group, concentrate on a single or a couple of client software, instead of this free competition mode of Gnutella client software. Though the premise is an unite commitee sort to settle on the proposal with priority when developers have disparate opinion.

ad-aware and bearshare are like two peas in a pod. Get rid of the ads and continue on reaping files. Why use a inferior free client when you can get a commercial one for free?

The limewire URL is b0rked and you just get Zeropaid's front page or something like it.
<A HREF="http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/random-bits/2002-February/000743.html">Here</A> is a description of the beast, but someone please post the Zeropaid URL - I would be interested to read it.

<A HREF="http://salon.com/tech/feature/2002/04/26/hollings_spyware/index.html">Evil US bill to undermine privacy and protect spyware</A>

<A HREF="http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/04272002a.php">Bearshare now has CyDoor spyware</A> (surprised to think it didn't)

Thanks Adam 'that's all there is, honest' Fisk
Joey, where's them dogs?

Nos

who let the dogs out?

Re: wierd physical threats:
I don't see how you can consider this a physical threat. I'm not even in your country. You seemed to understand my reference earlier - I am underlining that my instincts seemed correct
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...e&pagenumber=8

I think you are acting like a kid caught with some drugs. I got your quote wrong, here it is worded correctly, perhaps this will jog you memory worded correctly:
"That's it, man. Really." AFisk 04-10-2002 04:45 PM

Now, what I am saying is that this eTraffic 'sub-bundle' was never mentioned. It has a different name to TopMoxie - to me looks like 'a different thing'.

So the list over at
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...5&pagenumber=3

should now be amended to

Previous:
Cydor
eZula
Gator
BonziBuddy
clicktillyouwin

Current:
Cydoor
TopMoxie
eTraffic


**
Adam, I sure hope they gave you a raise and/or bonus - no-one should have to defend themselves personally in the line of duty in a day job. As far as I am concerned, you are Limewire, limewire is you, because I am talking to you as a representative of Limewire.

You shouldn't have your personal reputation put on the line over the fact that your boss requires you to install unscrupulous software on people's machines, that is his business. I would have walked long ago.

So please don't misconstrue anything I say to you as personal, it is not (except maybe this particular advice beginning at the double-asterisk '**' and ending here).

Nos

'TopMoxie' thread continues over at
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...5&pagenumber=3

btw who's this Michael Hefner? Could you please provide a link if it's important, since you seem to have already looked up the post you are referring to.