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Old March 31st, 2002
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You are not making gnutella "free" your taking away freedom from those without the same views as yourselves..
How? Prove your words!

Seperating is now taking away the freedom?

You should tell Vinnie that he takes away our freedom too!

Vinnie made the rules other follow the rules its simple!

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Originally posted by Sephiroth
>Especially since no other developer has any objections..
RAM left the_gdf and had lots of objections, others left and are too polite to say anything.

>But in the end i dont think that the majority of people are taking anyone seriously. The only thing that keeps repeating is the same unproven and really ridculeous accusations against bearshare and personal attacks against its developer.
This is not a BearShare only issue.

Blocking IPs has been done for quite some time now in most clients, no one has removed that feature and you can just about do the same thing with it manually so what is the difference?
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Yes its not right!

So call it freedom to do what others do too!

I wonder because I didnīt see a post from you as I ask Vinnie why he is doing it (on bearshare.net)... now you say its wrong?

Hmm... but you only try to persuade the open source users!?!

Why not Vinnie?

And I remember also that you said on IRC that you think its nothing wrong when bearshare is clustering because they can use their technic better!



As I said if Gnutella is free in this way, it seems so because nobody of the developers really care about it, then everybody should choose his way!

I donīt want to be a part of this bearshare.net too!

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I'm not yet convinced that BearShare clustering is an abuse of the network. That's what the big "if" was at the beginning of my statement. Pay attention.
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Then you should contact the vendor who makes the client that everyone *choses* to block and urge him to take out the spyware/adware so people won't block it anymore and "diminish your quality".
So now you want to blame the victim for your abuse?
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Blocking IPs has been done for quite some time now in most clients, no one has removed that feature and you can just about do the same thing with it manually so what is the difference?
You're uninformed on the subject. BearShare has removed that ability in their latest release version (2.5).
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There must be some reason why it is getting blocked, so go to the source.
Funny, that's exactly what I'm doing here. Openp2p is the source of the blocking.
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...and I think Bearshare is the origin of blocking.

"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master.
This expresses my idea of democracy." (Abraham Lincoln)
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You're uninformed on the subject. BearShare has removed that ability in their latest release version (2.5).
Please stop flooding the thread in a lame attempt to bury it. You could have combined all those replies in one post, unless you are technically challenged that is.
Good thing BearShare removed the ability to block, people were using it to move around the network and get away from BS nodes. Did he take out the ability to remove connected nodes yet? That would let people block BS also. Wouldn't want that!
I hear he has removed lots of features that allow people to see what is going on in the network, could he be trying to hide all his little tricks?
Another reason he needs to start his own private network.
On top of that he is now identifying his clients with strange headers that may contain computer specific information and identifies BS with some sort of encryption so people can prefer BS over other clients for search hits.
Why bother thinking up a way that those "other" clients could use too, to solve this "problem" with query hits?
People have been telling him from the start that he would get more market share simply by being nice to his users, but he likes screwing with the network instead.
Again, this isn't a BearShare issue, but BearShare is a good example of what happens when you let greed slip into Gnutella. If it isn't stopped now it will get worse.
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Please stop flooding the thread in a lame attempt to bury it. You could have combined all those replies in one post, unless you are technically challenged that is.
Good thing BearShare removed the ability to block, people were using it to move around the network and get away from BS nodes. Did he take out the ability to remove connected nodes yet? That would let people block BS also. Wouldn't want that!
I hear he has removed lots of features that allow people to see what is going on in the network, could he be trying to hide all his little tricks?
Another reason he needs to start his own private network.
On top of that he is now identifying his clients with strange headers that may contain computer specific information and identifies BS with some sort of encryption so people can prefer BS over other clients for search hits.
Why bother thinking up a way that those "other" clients could use too, to solve this "problem" with query hits?
People have been telling him from the start that he would get more market share simply by being nice to his users, but he likes screwing with the network instead.
Again, this isn't a BearShare issue, but BearShare is a good example of what happens when you let greed slip into Gnutella. If it isn't stopped now it will get worse.
You're right, this isn't a BearShare issue. Funny that you all keep trying to bury your own hypocrisy by posting crap about BearShare.
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You're right, this isn't a BearShare issue. Funny that you all keep trying to bury your own hypocrisy by posting crap about BearShare.
What we posted is NO crap!!!

For the last TIME prove your words! Or will you start with hot air like Sephiroth - many words without facts!

Yes the MAIN problem is VINNIE but he is the chief coder so THIS IS OF COURSE A BEARSHARE ISSUE!

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