Michael Hefner's post can be found at the very TopMoxie thread you linked to, on page 2.

Sorry for missing that thread - I posted the cross-link without having thoroughly read the thread (because I wanted any replies to my post to go in that thread!). I was not at all aware of that thread when I posted my query regarding eTraffic, as I don't spend much time in the limewire forum.

As you will see from my link, I got my info from a newsnet posting, and simply assumed that the info was not posted in this forum. Perhaps I was confused by the way this thread was split? I guess I missed the notice by Morgwen .. I notice a duplicate of the start of that thread is in this thread. I dunno, it's confusing.

I guess I could have searched.

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Any client that won't take the responsibility to remove spyware they installed with their program needs to be blocked off the net. Why should you continue to profit from my resources if I just tried out your program and decided I didn't like it?
It just goes to show you how the company "front man" can say how happy and nice their company is, but the real guy in charge is only interested in $$.
These companies need to take the responsibility and remove everything they install.
Commercial interests don't belong on Gnutella in the first place, that's why they are having all these problems with ads.
Greed doesn't belong on Gnutella.
Even XoloX is trying to be "nice" about their advertising, and they still don't know how to do it correctly because the users still don't want ads shoved in their face but also don't want to pay for something they can get for free like Gnucleus.
Commercial companies should see the writing on the wall, STAY OFF GNUTELLA !
This isn't your profit center or your personal gold mine.

Sure they do. This is an open network, everyone is welcome to participate.

Again Adam, you miss the point, I don't have a option to not use your software, unless I use blocking to keep your software away from my connections.
So, the only option is to block LimeWire so I don't have to contribute to your personal profit.

Gnucleus now uses a web based cache system, and I came up with the idea!
BearShare doesn't have a hold on everyone anymore!
If you didn't know, all the current host caches for the last 4 or 6 months are using the BearShare one, just re-directing the link, or are using BearShare for the cache software.
If it wasn't for open source you wouldn't see this feature because commercial companies lose control, and they hate that.
Too bad now! Another weak link removed from Gnutella, now just block, block, block those commercial clients off the net!

"The final feature, new in 1.7.5 is actually something separate we created for increasing the survival of Gnutella. Its called GnuCache, a web based PHP script that acts as a host cache for gnutella nodes. The reason we developed this is so Gnutella becomes more fail-safe. Most gnutella clients rely on permanent host servers such as connect1.gnutellanet.com to find an entry into the gnutella network. Gnucleus is the only gnutella client not dependent on host cache servers"

this thread has become 100% offtopic...

has it? dont think so, sometimes it hurts to see the uncomfortable truth?

First, Do No Harm - A Hippocratic Oath for Coders?
Add a second rule: do not fool users. With the increase in spyware, spam, etc, is it time for a Hippocratic Oath for Programmers? Should programmers be able to refuse to write code that harms the public more than it helps?

With some kind of Hippocratic oath, coders like Vinnie and Afisk need to quit their jobs? This is the classic dilema with all technology, which can be used equally to promote good as well as well as evil. Read the story on Slashdot: http://slashdot.org/askslashdot/02/0...2.shtml?tid=99

And with an improved ethics http://www.acm.org/serving/se/code.htm...
some noble Gnutella developers would be kicked into their buts.

Big respect to ungreedy open source developers!

Spyware is good, it supports Gnutella development efforts with money.

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