Hi again everyone, I was reading all the postings and one thing comes to mind for the developers end, and thats take the limewire.props dir out of the program install. you said mr. fisk that the work around that you guys developed worked in 10.1 but not 10.2. Ok I have 10.1 and others that have tried the work around I found have 10.2, sooo why not just take the directory out of the install. What does it do for the program? I haven't experienced any problems or anything, so what is its job, and why can't it be removedd from the offical distro? I'm just rather curious as I've only done work on much smaller and less complex programs. happy hunting