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Old December 9th, 2002
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Angry Could not move to Library - ridiculous bug...

OK, I posted this in another thread, but figured it might not get looked at as it should...

I was hoping 2.8 would fix some things, but I guess that was too much to hope for...

Until recently (2.7.9), I had been having no problems at all with LimeWire, other than the occasional "swimming through molasses" issues which seem to be the norm around here in OS X. My 10.1.5 system was running fine, 768MB of RAM, 120GB of hard drive space, dual G4/450s... Then, out of the blue, I started getting the dreaded "Could not move to Library" errors.

Now I've gone through every single thread in these forums concerning this issue, and I'm aware of the bug with X/LimeWire not allowing oddball characters in the filename. This error, though, happens on files of all sizes, with no odd characters involved.

I upgraded to 2.7.13, and the program crashed constantly. I don't think I had it running for more than 5 minutes at a time. Thinking it may have been a bad RAM chip, I replaced ALL of the RAM with PC100 chips from my old Win2K box. No diff. Uninstalling and reinstalling back to 2.7.9 didn't help.

I've been meaning to upgrade to Jaguar for awhile (discs have just been sitting, while I tested Jag on an older G3 system for compatibility issues), so I took the plunge...

I installed 10.2 (plus .2 update) onto a fresh hard drive last week, and installed 2.7.13 (Pro), and it crashed almost immediately everytime. I uninstalled it, installed 2.7.9, and that seemed to work, though it would still randomly crash. I did an upgrade to 2.7.13, and that now works, though I still have the occasional crash. No Norton on my system, either. Biggest piece of software I've installed so far has been Mozilla 1.2.1.

I'm downloading files with no odd characters (worst is a hyphen!), and although I was having the worst time trying to download large files (+400MB), it's now happening with files under 30MB as of this morning...

I haven't downloaded the PC version to try it, but I'm not sure I want to mung up my WinXP Pro box.

I will not renew my subscription. I'll probably go back to using the PC to download using Gnucleus, unless someone can tell me what the problem is. I've really WANTED to stick with LW, but this is getting silly, I tell you, just silly!

LimeWire now officially sucks. Please help.
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Old December 10th, 2002
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Ditto... This is a new bug that I have previously only experienced in low disc-space situations , but now its constant. I wonder how many people are having this problem.
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Old December 10th, 2002
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Do you ever not get the "Could Not Move to Library" bug? Also, do you know if you're running as an Ultrapeer (if it says "Ultrapeer" in the lower left-hand corner of the connections tab, then you're an Ultrapeer). If so, try disabling becoming an Ultrapeer in the Preferences window.

Finally, how many files are you sharing? If you're sharing a lot of files, you may want to consider moving some of those files outside of your shared directory.

Does any of that help?
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Old December 10th, 2002
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I think that momentarily I have something like 127 files shared. I'll try removing some of them and see where that gets me.
I don't recall ever seeing ultrapeer, but I do recall seeing "leaf" and "client".
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Old December 10th, 2002
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Addendum:

I have uninstalled the latest edition using its uninstaller, and then reinstalled to see if that makes a difference. I thought it was interesting that even after running the uninstaller, there wsa still a folder, there were still preferences and other files... shouldn't those be removed?

Also, both times I have installed the latest edition, the attached error log file has been saved to my desktop. This is a new development, which has never occurred before.
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Old December 13th, 2002
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Do you ever not get the "Could Not Move to Library" bug?
Yes, occasionally. But it's not reproducable. I thought that maybe the .MPG files were the only ones I was having problems with, but I had a .SIT file crap out on me yesterday...

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Also, do you know if you're running as an Ultrapeer (if it says "Ultrapeer" in the lower left-hand corner of the connections tab, then you're an Ultrapeer). If so, try disabling becoming an Ultrapeer in the Preferences window.
It has done so in both Ultrapeer and Leaf modes. BTW, why is it that sometimes my machine will make itself a leaf instead of an ultrapeer? Just wondering... I'll try disabling Ultrapeer tonight and see if that makes anything change...

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Finally, how many files are you sharing? If you're sharing a lot of files, you may want to consider moving some of those files outside of your shared directory.
I thought maybe that was the problem, so I moved my entire SHARED and INCOMPLETE folders to a different hard drive. Starting LimeWire created new folders. I quit immediately, copied five files of assorted types and sizes to the SHARED folder, and rebooted the computer. Same problems.

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Does any of that help?
Not yet, but like I said, I'll try disabling Ultrapeer capabilities and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for getting back to us on this, though!

Dan
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Old December 13th, 2002
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Thanks for the replies. Are you using a FireWire drive by any chance? Many users have experienced these issues when using FireWire drives. If you are using FireWire, do you still get these problems when you disconnect it, boot up, and run LimeWire again?

Oh, and you basically become an Ultrapeer depending upon whether or not the part of the network you connect to "needs" an Ultrapeer at that time -- if you connect to another Ultrapeer that already has leaves and has open slots, it will tell you to become one of its leaves.
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Old December 13th, 2002
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Unhappy can't move to library

I'm running 2.7.13 on my G4 with OSX 10.1.5
I've gotten this error on 2 large files
1) is there any way to recover the file?
2) is there a cause and or fix discovered?

the file must be somewhere since it took the tiime to download right?

Please help?
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Old December 16th, 2002
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Thanks for the replies. Are you using a FireWire drive by any chance? Many users have experienced these issues when using FireWire drives. If you are using FireWire, do you still get these problems when you disconnect it, boot up, and run LimeWire again?
I have an HP CD-RW drive in an external FireWire enclosure, but it's not turned on (loud fan). I'll try disconnecting it tonight...

As for the hint to disable Ultrapeer capabilities, I tried that, and LimeWire 2.7.13 still gives me the error on some files.

In frustration, I reinstalled Jaguar and updates (had issues with iPhoto not working after an import), but the problem still persists.

The funny part is, the files giving me the error aren't actually finishing. I actually watched a file being downloaded, and suddenly it gave the error after only 60% of the file was downloaded. Now here's the really interesting part: my ISP (Earthlink DSL) dropped my IP address at that moment, so there was actually a disconnection from the Gnutella network!

Earthlink gives me a DYNAMIC IP address, which rarely changes, EXCEPT when I run LimeWire. It seems like they are switching my address on purpose whenever they detect Gnutella presence from my computers.

Currently, I have a Linux box acting as a frontend (IPTables firewall, Snort intrusion detection, file/print share, Samba server, web server, MP3 server) running a modified Redhat 7.3 system from ClarkConnect.org (highly recommended, and free!). It has builtin PPPoE heartbeat check, and will automatically try to grab a new IP address if the old one "expires."

I'm wondering if this error happens when a connection is lost. As I can't tell from any logs I see when LimeWire gives this error, I can't really track it aside from sitting at the Mac for 24/7 with LimeWire active. I do have a log of the times my server has to reconnect to Earthlink. If there was a log for LimeWire, I could easily track down this possible problem...

Thanks for any ideas you've been coming up with!

Dan
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Old December 23rd, 2002
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I am also getting these "Cannot move to library errors" and again very intermittently. It can happen with the same files (redownloading) but size and type do't seem to make a difference.

As to other details:
MacOS X.2.3, 2 gigs free space, sharing 5 files (had a clearout!)

I, too, would like to know how to rescue the "unmovables"!
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