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Old January 19th, 2003
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Exclamation Acquisition actually downloads files - LimeWire just "Requeries"

Last night I downloaded Acquisition 0.72 and requested download of the same two dozen files that I've been attempting to download using LimeWire 2.8.x for the past month.

With LimeWire, the best I'd been able to achieve was a very few minutes of "Waiting...busy" followed by endless "Requery." Just about nothing breaks the Requery loop except exiting LimeWire and relaunching.

With Acquisition I did a single search, found the 24 files and immediately started downloading five of them. Overnight one file completed (50MB); four got half way before their hosts went offline (a total of 250MB out of 500MB). A sixth file started downloading when I made a second search and is now half way through (25MB out of 50MB).

Will some one explain to me what's going on here -- Acquisition is based on the LimeWire engine!

It's important to note that I experienced some problems with Acquisition: first, something very similar to the Can't Move to Library bug occurred prventing two files from starting download.. Second, the first file downloaded proved to be corrupted. (I'm assuming for now that this is the host's fault, not Acquition's.) And, most serious, no uploads! That means if we all were to migrate to Acquisition, there'd be no files to share!

[On and average night while I leave LimeWire "Requerying" away on the download side, about a dozen hosts attempt to upload files from me. Many (not on LimeWire 2.8.x) succeed. The fact that I didn't see a single upload attempt on Acquisition indicates a major fault in that application.]

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Acquisition is the LimeWire core with a native (faster, less memory using) GUI. If you prefer Acquisition that's just fine, but under the hood (more or less) the same program is running.
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Trap_Jaw, I don't prefer Acquisition. The LimeWire GUI is nicer. But, that's the point.

If LimeWire and Acquisition are essentially the same, why is it the LimeWire 2.8.x gets hung in "Requery" loops and NEVER downloads any file larger than a couple of MBs, while Acquisition 0.72 starts downloading immediately and continues until the file completes and/or the host goes offline.

I've downloaded nothing but a few short MP3s (totalling maybe 10MB) in the last month using 2.8.5 and 2.8.6. But, last night with Acquisition 0.72, I downloaded over 400MB!! Both programs were working off the same file list from the same hosts!

Makes no sense.

I repeat what I've been saying for weeks. LimeWire is broken and needs to be fixed!!!

Janet
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Hey there, sounds like you had an opportunity to delve deeper into this.

Do you think it's possible you've modified some of your sharing settings in sys prefs?

Although I do not seem to get the same level of upload activity with Acq as I do with LW, it does work on my system, granted I turn off the firewall for best results.

Also, if you haven't been there yet, Acq has a good interactive forum that the author actively participates in.

http://www.sciforums.com/f72/s/

Additionally, I can now attest to the Requery Loop you describe, and the Unable to Move to Library symptom, which I had not previously experienced.

Acquisition gets updated regularly, the guy is always fixing something. Too bad he's not part of the LW team, together I bet they could put out a killer app.

Hope you get it working better.
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Clueless,

I changed the Shared folder location and unchecked 'remove on complete' for both Acquisition and LimeWire. Otherwise, I'm using the default preferences.

Janet
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Sorry, I was not clear. I meant the System Preferences for File Sharing. I had read that some users had the same trouble due to changes they had made there.
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PS. I don't trust the LW preferences, so I might be suspicious if you have made changes to them.
For instance, I set my upload preferences to 1 per customer at a time, and a maximum of 5 uploads and slots.
Right now, I am looking at 8 active uploads.
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Clueless,

I'd never even been inside the File Sharing part of Systems Preferences until you mentioned it.

Mine is strictly a stand-alone computer . . . no firewall . . . File Sharing preferences at default.

Janet
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Old January 19th, 2003
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setup i-mac dv 400mhz G3, 320 meg ram OS9.1 limewire 2.8.5



ahhh somebody has noticed

right here goes
2nd from last and last upodate i started to get upload probs
ie they are on and off lot
but downloads have started to do it now

thought it was my firewall so i started to play with the port settings through the firewalland at present use port 6348 as the listening port in limewire
people now upload better but still a bit patchy

thing is i don't want to turn my personal firewall off for obvious reasons

i have also unticked the box for disable ultrapeer capabilities as i was having a hard time connecting to more than 2 hosts,now back to nearly normal

there is a general stability problem in limewire somewhere but i'll keep trying
or it could be a conspiracy of ISP's : )

don't have much choice unfotunately
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Janet,
As I recall, the internal OS firewall is off by default upon installation. And as you haven't adjusted any of the other sharing subsets within that preference pane, I don't think that the problem lies in there.
Well, worth a look, anyway.

We can hope that the .6 was an emergency stop gap measure to stem the tide until they can work on the other problems.
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