ok so how do I un-install the 1.4.1 preview since that is the only reason I installed it? I don't need anything on my system that could potentially cause system instability... I get kernel panics now when loading Wolfenstein and when deleting empty folders and installation packages from the trash. That wasn't happening before.

Is this what Acquisition does? I thought Acquisition is still primarily Limewire.

Aquisition is Gnutella, Limewire is Gnutella, but Aquisition is not Limewire. Different source code... the only similarity is protocol compatibility...

>Aquisition is Gnutella, Limewire is Gnutella, but Aquisition is not Limewire. Different source code... the only similarity is protocol compatibility

You're wrong, Acquisition _is_ LimeWire. It uses the exact same source code for all core functionality. The only difference is the display.

" Acquisition _is_ LimeWire. It uses the exact same source code for all core functionality. The only difference is the display."

Absolutely incorrect.

LimeWire is a bug ridden, non supported application that crashes consistently.

Acquisition is a well written application that is as stable as OS X. Plus, the developer actually participates in discussions with his customers in an effort to create a product that incorporates user feedback in its evolution.

Dealing with the people at LimeWire is like dealing with Microsoft. If you have a problem, you are SOL and on your own.

Hey clueless--easy now. Dave writes that Acquisition is dependent on Limewire for the source code. There is a difference in the two, but I don't know the exact nature of those differences. Sam says the source code is the same, Dave wrote that "search architecture has changed quite substantially and will perform questionably until the network environment is more optimized to support it. This is not an issue I have any control over. Search performance is a core-side issue (LimeWire), so while I appreciate any effort to inform me, it's directed at the wrong person. [np] Wait until LW 2.9/3.0 emerges in wide release before really worrying about it. The network is just not optimized right now for dynamic querying."

Yeah, there are differences, and yeah, they are frustrating for those of us who know time is running out on the freedom of p2p. As for why one or the other downloads--I'd only be guessing. All I've seen in the last few months is that no platform or client combination is reliable. Don't bash the coders on matters of fact. The business manager is posting on the Limewire message boards--maybe you should take it there?

Sorry--here's the link to the message board where Acquisition and Limewire are mentioned http://core.limewire.org/servlets/Su...t?listName=dev and http://www.sciforums.com/f72/s/showt...threadid=17431

the reason the search architecture for the Acquisition beta is different than the currently released LimeWire is because LimeWire has not yet released a stable version with the new architecture. it is still undergoing heavy revision in the development process. Dave just happened to download the code at a time he thought it was stable.

Dave even says it .. " Search performance is a core-side issue (LimeWire), so while I appreciate any effort to inform me, it's directed at the wrong person." So yeah -- the essential functions of Acquisition are _exactly_ the same as those of LimeWire.

The LimeWire project is split into two parts, core and gui. Acquisition embeds the LimeWire core. It may use a more up-to-date version of the core than is present in the currently released version of LimeWire, 2.8.6. I don't believe it takes advantage of the 1.4.1 preview JRE, but that wouldn't really be responsible for perceived performance differences.

The Acquisition front-end is native Cocoa, it does not use the LimeWire gui.

Mark
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Thanks Sam, Mark and Clueless for the questions, answers and ideas.

Any more suggestions where to look for answers why p2p is worth the hassle of using and developing on OSX? Gathering and sharing "free stuff" is sure not simple, seems quite risky, and looks to require lots of patience.

Currently I look for answers here, on the Limewire mailing lists (thanks Sam), and the Acquisition posts on sciforums.com. I did run across a place where "flames on" . . .

BTW--The price of my Pro has been repaid with curiousity, novelty and anticipation (once I got over feeling suckered). The world of p2p on OSX is better than cable TV. I hope to hear that Limewire and Acquisition work out a fee sharing arrangement, where each gets a portion of a fee in proportion to their contributions in core/gui development and OSX customer support, and both Limewire and Acquisition work on a system of recognition for the volunteer coders.

It's not going to get any worse before it gets better.

Are you running 10.2.4? There are some behind-the-scenes changes that might make or break your decision to stick with it, even with 2.8.6.

Mark
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