4.6 and 4.8 have both been nightmares on both macs running different versions of OS10.3

Now I think the best solution is to go back to using 4.4

Is it ok to just go and install this or will I have to delete 4.8 first?

and is there a way to keep my old downloads etc?

You realise don't you that version 4.2 thru to 4.8.0 had security holes? ie: There was a remote chance someone could access other parts of your computer. That's why LW 4.8.1 was released to overcome this. Limewire Security issue (click on link)

I used to jump back to earlier versions, LW 4.0.4 to the later versions up to about 4.1.5 but then with the later versions after that, going back to 4.0.4 would mean my incomplete files wouldn't load & would start off at 0%. It seemed to corrupt the downld prefs.

If you do go back to another earlier version, make a backup of your download.dat & bak files found in your incomplete folder.

i copied all incompletes onto another drive with the little downloads file in the folder then I deleted all mention of limewire off the drive from the system folders and rebooted then installed limw4.4

but when i boot the prefs are to clear downloads over 7days old so it deleted about 300files some of which had downloaded partially so I stopped everything

I set the pref to not delete imcompletes till they are 200days old and then I quit

I copied all the incompletes from my back up drive again overwriting whatever was in that folder and launched limewire

did a refresh of incompletes in the library window
then select all and hit resume
and it seems to be more stable

ok there might be a security risk but lime 4.8 and 4.6 were driving me absolutly nuts quiting all the time

its a pity that the new versions were not tested better for osX before release.

4.6 and 4.8 are so bad that I expected a new version quickly so as to keep mac users from going nuts

I wonder is it the version of limewire thats the problem or is it that limewire updated java some how and that update doesnt like the mac os?

Tough question. Actually Java for mac is not as efficient in some ways as java for windows. There's an issue with memory use of Java which includes both real RAM & virtual memory (VM) use (all OSX apps use VM.) Actually the 4.8 LW uses much less RAM than the previous versions did. But it still uses considerable VM. It also utilises considerable cpu power. WHich is why we need to be careful how we use it. Unfortunately mac is very slow to update to Java 1.5 (still using 1.4.2)

LW is presently working on a more efficient use of Java which uses considerable less memory & cpu. That will apparently be in a not too distant in the future release. See http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...225#post128225

thanks for the reply and the info

for the record I have 1gig ram in a dual 450mhz g4

nothing else is running on the computer

theres 30 gig of free drive space

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So much for going back to 4.4 - it has just quit/crashed in the same way that 4.6 and 4.8 did !!!

I have noticed that an hour after booting all files that arent downloading or queued will have the "need more sources"

so then I select 30 to 60 of them at a time and hit find more/resume

If I select all of them it just crashes after a few minutes

eventually they are filtre thru to awaiting sources if there are no hits

what I noticed with 4.4 today is that loads of files end up with queued status after I have select resume when they were in need more sources status

thats normal but what is strange and perhaps caused the crash is that none of the queued were doing anything or going anywhere, not even those what were in priority position 1,2, and 3?
Limewire was still downloading so I know it hadnt froze but it seemed that the queue was blocked and nothing was moving - perhaps a java memory problem

now Im wondering if I can reinstall java and if there is a safe way to uninstall first?

perhaps the mac heads are having problems with their os and the new os due soon and how it works with java that they havent upgraded to 1.5

anyone know why they are on old versions of java?

I assume that by bringing up that issue that you imply Limw on the mac would work better with java1.5

also just on the possible security issues

on the back i have the built in firewall on and the 6346 posrt open

if I close this port does that mean that no one can sneak in?

Java 1.5 for windows has more improvements. How much is not drastic .. but depends on which type of app you're using I guess.

Keep in mind queued means your LW is busy. If I have a lot of incompletes (& I do), I open LW & let it sit for up to 30 mins or so before using. Also FYI, Resuming many files can have side-fx. It will cause your files to queue for much, much longer & uses much more computer resources. I personally only resume a few at a time but then, my bandwidth is probably much, much less than yours. eg: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...028#post116028

Perhaps you should go back to 4.8.1 At least it will use less ram. But I've often had several versions of LW on my computer at same time so .. you could re-install it & see how it goes. And wait for LW 5 to come out lol

You might even be interested in trying out the Jum release which is a beta of LW but is updated almost every week: http://www.mager.org/LimeWire/

Oh about reinstalling Java see: Can't launch LW: Bouncing in Dock (click on link) & get the standalone installer & make note of possible install issues at bottom of that page (may need to go to receipts folder if it says Java is already up to date.)

actually I was waiting for Frodo to drop the ring into the lava and I was hoping that would sort out this Limewire / Java evil!
Im not sure which will happen first Limew5 or Frodo?


interesting about the queued thing, I wasnt sure if it was network slowness/blockage or the Limewire sitting on my computer


In terms of the "resume" button I find that an hour after booting everything is stuck at NEEDS MORE SOURCES and they will just sit there doing very little - its hard not to want to kick it up the *** and tell it to go look if it 'needs'

Sorry missed your last post I took a while to write mine. Umm... not sure about the security doors. Does mean it'd be very difficult for people to upld from you. And people uplding leads to much better results for LW. I have people uplding from me within a few mins of opening LW despite it takes 9 mins to load incl. incompletes & another 10 mins for shared files. lol That's why I often don't even do searches but just leave my LW on & it looks after itself.


OK some hints: A well set-up LW can start to automatically continue its dwnlding after it's settled down perhaps 2 out of 3 times you open LW. Optimising LW & Maximising Uplds & Dwnlds A (1st post only) & also Part B which is even better & last & least are search & dwnld hints. The latter one I've been thinking about re-writing for some time. That's just for playing it safe. eg- I show all speeds & qualities.

eg: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...028#post116028

I suppose my feeling is that I paid for the pro version and the last 2 (4.6 + 4.8.1)have not worked correctly - I am happy to start sharing again once Limewire bring out a version that works without crashing and is secure.

I know its selfish but I see it as a way of not rewarding Limewire for bringing out new software for the mac that doesnt work

they have still not come clean and said "sorry we know that you and others are having problems and we know what is causing the problems and it will be fixed in the next version"

something I would expect from a software developper - some reassurance rather than total silence!!!