somewhere there was a font smoothing pref....hmm

System Prefs > Appearance > Font Smoothing Style option at bottom ... is that the one?

In earlier OSX's I also thought there was a more obvious font smoothing option. If it exists in Tiger I can't find it.

For Java there's an option for font smoothing in the Java prefs "if" you're using Java 1.5 or later & Tiger or later; if you see Setting up Java 1.5 & tick 'Smooth all text in Java applets' option & save, then that might help.

Limewire had been working nice; but soon after I updated and upgraded to Limewire Pro 4.12.6 the quit problem came back. I just did 2 safe boots, then trashed prefs. No luck yet. What java version should I try to reinstall, got a link? Thank you oh Lord;-)

You did safe boots, did that include repairing permissions? For Java see http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showpo...8&postcount=97 & perhaps also check the posts after that. If all else fails, try one of the nightly builds by Jum http://www.mager.org/LimeWire/ which are not the official LW, but are sort of beta developments.

Yeah the whole schmear; latest version; Pro; registered; safe boot; repaired permissions; trashed prefs; reinstalled the latest java, and reinstalled the combo update and it still quits. Concluded it must be a bug on their part.

It works fine on my mac. Did you try the jum version? There's some minor differences (the media player is disabled) but it's based on the same program. Try the nightly builds. Jum's innovations & bug findings have frequently been added to the public version.

K; I'll try Jum since I don't use their player; BTW; I timed the Safe Boot; at least on my system, I have to stare at the gray apple and hold down the shift key listening to that fan power up and then off for a full 10 plus minutes....

thanks;-)

It's normal for it to take much longer. I don't know why but even at apple's site they warn it takes much longer. 10 mins sounds a little too long but I guess it depends on model/system. I've heard of someone else complaining the same thing.

I think in Tiger all you need to do is log out unless I misread it. But I'm not so sure about that. I've never tried it by just logging out.

BTW something else you could try is creating a new account on your mac & installing LW on it. See if that works. If yes, then it is probably something in your account that is causing LW problems. It's very easy to swap between accounts in Tiger & quite cute the way it goes about it.

Well well well; got it to work by creating another user. (Made a copy and put it in 'shared' folder.) I just use fast user switching now. Much much easier than a safe boot;-) So it must be something on my system....hmm APE? Limewire is on the master exclude list. Anyway; can I leave it running on my second user while working on my main user side? Things will still continue downloading?

Thanks;-)