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aussienutter March 26th, 2005 12:52 AM

How to keep info of download when burning on a cd
 
When I burn to disk music that I have downloaded the info doesn't get burnt with it. I get the music minus the info. Is there anyway I can set itunes in Macos10.3.8 to do this please
Merelyn

AgustinCordoba March 26th, 2005 04:59 AM

Hi, I'm no expert on this, but there was a similar post in one of the limewire forums, might not be too different: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=32626

Also checkout the iTunes/iPod sites: http://www.apple.com/support/itunes/...ial/index.html & http://www.apple.com/support/ipod/tutorial/index.html

Hope this helps,

Agustin

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 02:31 PM

Thank you Agustin,
I have checked out the sites you suggested. I haven't got the same problem.
When I import music into my Mac it automatically goes into itunes in a folder called Limewire. I can also find the imported music, in several other places on my computer.
I can make up a playlist from different locations and all the info of each song is in it.
My problem is that the info doesn't appear on the burnt cd. Each track is numbered with no other info, and yet it is all there on my computer.
I have searched all the forums and questions, especially apple and itunes. I have spent hours.
I realise I am not going to be the only one with this problem so I will keep searching, but in the meantime if someone has a suggestion PLEASE HELP.
Thanks Merelyn

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 05:16 PM

I think I might have the answer to my problem.
In the preferences when burning a cd in itunes I think if I chose a data cd or dvd then I would get the song titles etc.
However it does say "These discs may not play in some players " So I have decided to be happy with what I have and instead print off the song titles, and make a cover for the cd .
Hope this will help someone else in the future.
Thanks just the same
Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 26th, 2005 06:29 PM

Normally info doesn't get burnt with audio files. You'd have to rely on the above programs to remember what's on them. The only other way I can think of is using CD Text ... but only 'some' players use this technology & not all cd burners have the ability to burn that info on. I know Roxio Toast does ...

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 06:40 PM

Thanks Lord of the Rings.

I have toast, and use it mainly for copying or burning DVD's.
Do CD's burnt in toast play in all players ? Some of my DVD's that I have burnt with video content don't play in my stand alone player, however I can play them on my Mac.
Ciao Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 26th, 2005 06:52 PM

You're talking my language with Toast & a mac lol! :D If you're burning a dvd you must choose UDF format. Which version of Toast do you have? For dvd's click on Data tab, then press the advanced button. Then choose DVD-ROM (UDF). ALso don't burn at max speed. Some set-top players are fussy for brand of dvd disk also. I use Verbatim mostly.

I've never tried burning an audio cd with CD-Text b/c I don't have a player that can recognise it (my stereo is many years old, lol) I don't know how to create CD-Text but, go to Toast's help & type in cd-text. Also go to their support site for more info.

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 07:16 PM

Thanks Lord of the Rings

I have toast 6.0.7
Tell me please why do I choose UDF Format, what exactly is that?
I have PAL here in Australia not NTSC has the UDF got anything to do with that? Sorry for my ignorance!!!
I keep changing brands because I am aware of that problem also the speed I am aware of and so I use 2X always and just wait longer !
Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 26th, 2005 07:33 PM

I'm also from Australia so I use PAL. Not UDF has nothing to do with video video type. UDF is the official DVD format. If you burn dvd's as data disks then they'll only play in some set-top players & your computer. Make them UDF & they should play in all that have the ability to play dvd-r disks. Personally I generally trial them out on dvd-rw 1st to make sure they play how I want them to. Two speed is fine!

What brand of set-top player do you have? What brand & model of burner? If you have a mac then probably it will be a Pioneer. I bought mine separately from the computer. I also specially hunted thru dvd set-top players to make sure the one I chose would play ALL types of dvd & cd; ie: dvd-r, dvd-rw, dvd+r, dvd+rw, vcd, svcd, audio dvd, etc.

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 07:59 PM

Never used a DVD-RW because of the way you have to trick the mac into thinking it is a DVD.
I can never remember how to do that.
Anyway dvd's are not that expensive anymore, thank goodness. They used to cost an arm and a leg !
Set top player I have an LG
Brand of burner Sony model Sony DVD RW DW-U10A
Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 26th, 2005 08:26 PM

If you're having problems with dvd-rw then it sounds like you'er using OS9. That's why I swapped over to OSX for both video work & dvd burning. So much more reliable & faster. Which OS version are you using??

I believe some of the mac G4's had Sony burners or was that the early G5's. I have absolutely no issue with dvd-rw's. Even the OS can erase a dvd-rw.

Verbatim disks are dirt cheap nowadays at JB-Hi Fi ... $2.50 for dvd-rw & dvd-r even cheaper. BUT ... it would be worth having a close look at your LG player manual or website support section to find out what disks it prefers. My brother bought a player which cost 3 times mine & boasted it could play anything ... not so it turns out. Some of the better known brands of players are in fact limited to the brands of dvd-r media they can play. Which really sucks ... excuse the language. Not worth paying big money thinking you're getting what you're not. Anyway back to the topic .. research your player to find what is recommended for it.

I'd be interested to find out why you're having difficulties using dvd-rw.

aussienutter March 26th, 2005 11:37 PM

Lord of the Rings!
I have only used a dvd-rw once. I always have plenty of dvd-R's around and don't think to get a RW so the main reason for not using them. However as I said before you can't just insert the RW in the drive like you can with -R's.
I'm running 10.3.8 and have the G4 just before the G5 came out.
I don't know that we have a JB hi fi here, certainly not in my shopping area. I am in Adelaide. However I have used verbatin and will get a batch of those next time, I have never been confindent that it is the fault of the disk. I have been blaming the dvd player. Like your brother when we bought this LG Combo we thought it would play everything. I even took photo cd's made in iphoto as well as home video dvd's made in both idvd and toast to play in the unit we decided to purchase. They all played !!! I felt really confindent that I had purchased the right player, but no I definitely did not. Do you use mactheripper and dvd2oneX to do dvd copying? Can we discuss this on this forum?
Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 27th, 2005 12:44 AM

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I use DVD Backup or yade X (I do have mactheripper but I'm happy with the other 2) for extractions & dvd2oneX. If I only want a part of a movie then I'll use bbDEMUX to separate the audio & video, or/& Mpeg Streamclip to demux, edit & export to QT. I also use mACdec for audio & mpeg2decX for video for various purposes.

Yeah JB HiFi is a Melb co. but I thought they were nationwide.

As for your dvd-rw issue, I am aware that was an issue but can't remember off-hand how to do it. I can find out .. I used to be on the DVD Studio Pro forum. I thought this was overcome with OSX update but perhaps I'm wrong. Have you tried recently?

Quote from DSP forum: "SP2 will burn to a DVD-RW just fine. (I'm using a SuperDrive). You can Format to an -RW with no hitch. If you want to use the simple "Burn" command you need to insert the DVD-RW first, then choose "Ignore" when the Finder gives you a message about what to do with the uninitialized disc. Then hit "Burn" & you're gold."

To erase a DVD-RW, use Disk Utility. It's MUCH faster than Toast (2 minutes to erase a full DVD-RW on "Quick Erase" as opposed to 20-30 minutes in Toast). (BTW you can also quick-erase a disk using Toast!)

AND

""Everything is built and burns fine. The Audio_TS, Video_TS and DVD.img are burned on the DVD disc."

This might be part of the problem. An .img file is useful if you're going to burn a DVD in Toast using the DATA tab. Your entire DVD is in the .img file and that's all you need.

If you burn a DVD from the Video_TS & Audio_TS files, that's all you want -- don't use the image file. Everything you need for the DVD is in the Video_TS folder. The Audio_TS folder will be empty, but some DVD players expect it to be there. Also, if you're burning with Toast, open your Video_TS folder & delete the files 'project'.layout & VOB_Data.lay. These are used in DVD-SP but are not needed with Toast. In earlier versions of Toast, burn from the DATA tab & select DVD-ROM UDF. In the latest version, you can burn under the DVD-Video from Video_TS tab.

Hope this makes sense."


As for CD-Text, once you have the text entered then just tick the option under advanced in Toast. As for how to get the names ... iTunes does a great job under the advanced menu: Get Track Names (can't seem to get that function to work in Toast.)

Don't know if the images below help at all. Actually when I insert a blank dvd-rw nothing happens. But use the above advice ...

aussienutter March 27th, 2005 01:54 AM

Lord of the Rings,
I haven't heard of some of the programs you mentioned. How would you go about copying a 21/2 hour dvd? I sent you a message, but am not sure if you will get it, so let me know please, I'll post it if you didn't.
Merelyn

aussienutter March 27th, 2005 02:07 AM

Lord of the Rings,

Which of the YadeX would I download
YadeX US v 0.99b ?

Thanks Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 27th, 2005 07:30 AM

DVDxDV sounds very suspect to me. If it causes sound to separate in timing to the movie & as much as a minute then it's a poor piece of softw. I've done fine with either dvd backup or yade x.

dvd2onex then does fine squashing it down in size. For music videos it does seem to have more difficulty. Sometimes with dvd2onex, you need to set the size manually. And for some (particularly with long music videos) you need to set the target size much smaller for it to get down to 4.37 GB (eg: target 3.5 GB in extreme cases.)

I use yade X us 0.99b & save as a dmg (if not dvdbackup.) Then mount that using disk copy when wanting to use dvd2onex. http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=YadeX This is where I got it.

I coincidentally found this but I use alternative softw's to them: http://www.tcnj.edu/~liloia3/imm/proj/dvdreauthor/ But this shouldn't be necessary except in particular situations.

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 02:38 PM

Lord of the Rings.

I went to download the US version of YadeX and read the "read" and it was in French. Is that the way it is for you also ?
Thanks Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 03:25 PM

No ... you'll notice the 1st on the list says FR which means France. lol :D See http://www.macetvideo.com/dl_center/dl_center.html

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 03:31 PM

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User defined is what you can select here (hope I didn't ramble too much in my pm ... haven't had breaky yet.) lol

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 04:22 PM

Lord of the Rings
YadeX I looked in the US and the writing was all in french, I went to the FR Read me and it too was in french, I figured that it is only in french even though it says US. Maybe I will down load the US version anyway and the readme might be in English with the download !!!
Thanks Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 04:28 PM

My read me is in english.

When you open yadex & you have a dvd inserted, check the File options. Personally I save as an image but it's what suits you best.

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 04:28 PM

Lord of the Rings

Yes I use User Defined, but the window next to it says ....... MB
For 3.5 GB do I write 3500 and that will allow me to get a longer video done?
I thought that would mean I would get less done !!!
I afraid I find this very difficult.
Thanks for your patience though

Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 04:31 PM

That size option is the target ... obviously with some vid's they don't compress well so you need to set a smaller target size to get them to compress more. Remember you have audio options ... can get rid of what you don't want. Such as in another language or audio type.

It's as complex as you want it to be really.

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 04:38 PM

Lord of the Rings

I have downloaded the US YadeX but my stuffit9 isn't working, I get an error, so I have to spend a bit of time trying to work out what is wrong or download a new one. Once I have opened YadeX I'll get back to you.
Thanks Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 04:42 PM

A reboot sometimes fixes stuffit. Or better still to repair permissions: SAFE Boot & Repair Permissions which is basically starting up with the SHIFT key held down & then running disk utility.

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 04:48 PM

Lord of the Rings

Yes I have now opened up the read me and it is in English.
I did a search in the finder and I can't find Quicktime MPEG 2 I have Quicktime Pro will that do the same job ?
Cheers Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 04:53 PM

For QT, I got MPeg2 codecs with DVD SP & FCP. But there are 3rd party ones.

aussienutter March 28th, 2005 05:04 PM

Lord of the Rings

I have downloaded Apple Quicktime 6 MPEG-2 playback component OSX.dmg.sit is that what I need ?
Cheers Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 28th, 2005 05:05 PM

I think that's it. There's one for playback & another for encoding. But I think that'll do the trick.

By the way did you check out MPeg Streamclip? http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=MPEG_StreamClip It's freeware!

aussienutter March 29th, 2005 04:04 AM

Lord of the Rings,
Well I used DVDBackup then DVD2OneX, then 2x toast 1 DVD played fine.
I inserted the 2nd DVD and I got an error message. Sense Key = Medium error Sense Code+0x0C, 0x08 WRITE ERROR - RECOVERY FAILED.
I bought the verbatin discs. I thought now I might try to use YadeX
Merelyn

Lord of the Rings March 29th, 2005 07:34 AM

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Some videos have various audio options. Some are not required. For music vid's, if you have the choice b/w pcm (= aiff) & ac3 then ac3 will take up much less space ... but just make sure that taking one out doesn't affect some particular section of the vid. The sample below is not pcm but mpeg audio but was the only example I could find handy at my fingertips. (as a side-note mpeg audio is only available on pal dvd. yipee!)

I almost always encode using ac3 audio so I can maximise the space available for video. I create lots of videos from full quality video.

aussienutter March 29th, 2005 02:24 PM

Lord of the Rings

Now I see how you know what type of audio is on a dvd, can't tell you how many times I have seen that and clicked on one, but not ever thought about the different types of sound !!! How dumb is that ?
The way I look at what I am doing is the more I learn the more things I will try and eventually I will find myself a little nitch. I have to get to that stage. I envy you because you have got to that stage.
Information is power!
Thanks, this particular screen shot was really good to see.

Ciao Merelyn


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