Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Gnutella News and Gnutelliums Forums > General P2P Network Discussion
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts

General P2P Network Discussion For general discussion about peer-to-peer networks.


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old September 21st, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 15th, 2003
Posts: 15
Naked Truth is flying high
Default Beware of Zeropaid.com forums - They are a Honeypot Trap - Heres the Proof!

I found this on the ES5 forums - http://forums.es5.com - and I think you all need to beware of Zeropaid.com. They have proven ties to the RIAA / MPAA / & Digital Rights Management people.

Hello Everybody,

Zeropaid.com was created 4 years ago by Christopher Levy, a leading Digital Rights Management software producer. Mr. Levy met Chris Hedgecock at MSN.COM about 4 years ago and came up with the idea of creating Zeropaid.com.

Many of you thought that Mr. Chris Hedgecock and his 3 year veteran roomate Jorge Gonzales own and control the site.

Here are the stats on Chris Hedgecock and Jorge Gonzales...
http://www.zeropaid.com/php/crew.php

They are only TRAFFIC COPS. The real agenda of Zeropaid.com is Digital Rights Management, or the acronym "DRM".

DRM technology at its root was created by Mr. Christopher Levy specifically for the United States Government. Since the US goverment wants to stop paying hundred of millions of dollars to create and maintain mainframe computers, P2P is the natural alternative. Using the CPU's of hundreds of thousands of computers and not having to store everything all in one place is the idea. DRM technology is also good for the US Government because the file is encrypted on everybodys computer and if somebody hacks your computer, they cant penetrate into the file. If a hacker penetrates a DRM computer and downloads the files, he will be tracked and persecuted, but will never actually be able to view the contents of the file.

Publicly promoting DRM as you know it is the "industrialization of digital authtentification".

Mr. Levy has made millions of dollars in publicly promoting DRM for media companies and is considered NUMBER #1 in the DRM industry.

Introducing Mr. Christopher Levy, CEO of BUYDRM

QUOTE
As CEO and Founder of BuyDRM, a leading provider of World Class DRM technologies in the Entertainment and Media Markets, Levy has been a driving force in the rapid evolution of the Streaming Media industry. After founding ClickHear Productions in 1995 and later leading the sale of the company to CMGi for nearly $6 Million, Christopher invented and led to market "streamOS", the industry's first Overlay Content Management/Delivery Platform for publishing streaming media across multiple Content Delivery Networks. streamOS was used by MSN to WebCast Madonna to 9 Million viewers making it the largest WebCast in history.

Post CMGi, Levy founded and led to market the world's first integrated DRM/Credit Card Processing Solution, dMESH from DRM Networks.

Levy has worked for a top-shelf list of streaming media clients including Interscope Records, IslandDefJam Records, Swell, Budweiser, NFL Films, Grand Royal Records, The Museum of Television and Radio, Microsoft, Intel and others.

Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal.

Levy studied Chemical Engineering at the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a Senatorial Appointee to Japan for the state of Nevada.



http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701

The same article...
http://christopherlevy.com

And dont forget...
http://www.buydrm.com/

I want to inform everybody that Mr. Chris Hedgecock, age 25, is not and was never the real decision maker of Zeropaid. At best, he is a front man, a pawn, and a sales agent for Zeropaid.com, as well as a sales agent and front man for various other businesses owned and controlled by Christopher Levy. Chris did not start Zeropaid.com when he was 20 years old. The site was funded and promoted by Chris Levy. Jorge Gonzales did alot of the design while Chris was the front man and sales promoter.

Why would Christopher Levy, a multi millionaire, work for a shitty portal called Zeropaid.com that makes no money? Millionaires dont have time for **** like this, specifically when they are making real money selling their DRM content to big people like the RIAA. Chris Levy doesnt work for ZP, rather opposite, ZP works for him.

QUOTE
Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal.

Levy studied Chemical Engineering at the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a Senatorial Appointee to Japan for the state of Nevada.


In another thread, Mr. Chris Hedgecock asks all DRM ACTIVISTS to come to Zeropaid.com and learn the P2Pr's habits..

QUOTE
Christopher Hedgecock, executive vice president of EmpireDRM (www.empiredrm.com), recommended Webmasters visit sites like ZeroPaid.com and subscribe to newsletters like DRMDaily (www.drmdaily.com) to familiarize themselves with the concepts behind P2P networks and their popularity, and then begin transforming their content into material that will promote their businesses and make them money even if it's stolen and traded on the big commercial networks.


Chris does not deny the above statement. He simply says he was 24 years old, they flew him out to Vegas, and they got him laid, and he got to hang out with big wig porn stars and producers, etc, etc. Read the article and you will see very clearly what ZEROPAID.COM is really for. Its for DRM.

Here is Chris's Statement on this issue (posted as DUBSTYLEE of ZP): Click Here to See

And for the original article from where he is quoted...
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...0403_003.shtml

ES5 had several banners and ads running over the last few months. In total, we paid $1,500 dollars for those ads that ran for a couple of months all over their forum. $1,500 for a couple months of advertising is nothing. All of their other ads are generally companies that are owned by Christopher Levy and/or managed by Christopher Headcock, including the FMS NETCHECK banner that is currently on all of their webpages.

Zeropaid.com does NOT MAKE MONEY. I doubt they even sell 10 T-Shirts a month with their logo on it.

Meanwhile, ES5 kept receiving evidence about Zeropaid's involvement in DRM. It was clear to us at ES5 that Sephiroth and other ZP people were trying to dig up information on us from the beginning. Sephiroth of ZP went as far as saying that he has known Chris and Jorge since the beginning of ZP, over 4 years ago, and that they have absolutely no involvement with DRM. I pointed out that Chris Headcock is in fact involved and will be attending the CONTENT WORLD to promote DRM on October 8th. Since then, no word from Sephiroth!

We decided to play ZP at their own game, simply because we knew they were sell outs. We made sure that nobody in the middle east would talk about us. ZP found nothing out about ES5. ZP admits to using contacts in fortune 500 companies to search for who is financing ES5. What kind of P2P'r is interested in who finances us? So it was obvious that somebody is financing the ZP agenda to gather information on ES5, and we have taken great pains to investigate exactly who.

For Zeropaid, Bandwidth is expensive, and obviously since ZP has never had anything over 250 people online at any given time, their site is not big. See their stats now online here

ZP was just made to look big, by pre-registering user accounts, but in reality, the owners cannot manipulate the amount of users who appear online, thus their online stats are what counts, and not the amount of users they say they have.

ZP makes sure that the threads reach all major search engines immediately by simple "crawlers". ZP is full of fake accounts. A P2P board that sports 166,000 registered members would have had over 250 people inside of it at any given time. I should note they had 250 people online over 6 months ago, and now, according to their stats, they barely have 26 people in their forum as I write this post. Please note that the stats reflect both GUESTS and MEMBERS.

So if you visit Zeropaid logged in or not, you appear in their stats, either as GUEST or as MEMBER. All forum boards are the same. The only thing a webmaster who wants to manipulate public thought can do is manipulate the amount of user accounts by pre-registering names to make their forum look big.

Go to the birthdays at http://zeropaid.com/bbs at the far bottom and check out how many of those users have ever posted by simply clicking on any of the names. You will notice that none of those members ever posted.

People dont register on P2P forums, give out their birthdays, and additional private information like their occupation, place of residence, etc., and validate email registration without any intent to post. That is not normal. I agree that many people register to forums without posting, but they dont supply their personal information if they have no intent on posting. At least not at the bulk numbers that ZP sports. All of the fake accounts list the peoples birthdays and other private information. Its one thing to note your birthday, but also where you live and what you do for a living?

Zeropaid.com barely has 30 people online at a time, and most of those people online are MODS.

At ES5, we are only open 6 months and we have already had over 1,100 people in our forum at one time. We have less than 20,000 members, basically a 10th of the members they have. We are not in competition, rather we only seek to show you a simple reality that they are lying about their stats, and thus stealing money from their advertisers.

So again, ZP is failing. Chris Hedgecock uses several user accounts on ZP. He does this to promote his Q & A. He asks questions under one name, and answers the same questions under another user account. He does this to create attraction to his board and promote conversation. I call it PERSONALITY DISORDER.

Here is Chris on ZP using the "Dubstylee" user name.
http://www.zeropaid.com/bbs/showthre...threadid=14759

Notice Chris Headcock only shows 250 posts using the name "Dubstylee". He claims to have owned ZP for 4 years, and only has 250 posts? Yeah right! Notice that the birthday accounts were all opened in April, May, June of 2002. Notice when DUBSTYLEE opened his account - APRIL 2002!

All of Chris's user accounts are used to promote conversation and to sway common P2Pr's thought. All this bullshit about me cloning other peoples accounts or being other people like KRELL, CCSDUDE, MONYAK, STEVE15, etc., is all bullshit. Mr. Chris plays games. Anybody with common sense knows my style of writing.

I am a no bullshit poster. Read into my posts, and you will see I am to ****ing direct to waist time on bullshit posts.

Chris Hedgecock appears with Christopher Levy all over the United States promoting DRM. They will be appearing together on Octover 8th at CONTENT WORLDS DRM TECHNOLOGY CONVENTION at 13:00.
http://www.contentworld.com/conferen...on_glance.html

Notice that Chris Levy is the MODERATOR and chief panalist and Chris Hedgecock is just a speaker at Content Worlds convention. Chris Levy is the big man, the one who calls the shots, the one who has a college degree from the United States Military Academy at West Point and was a senatorial apointee to Japan for the state of Nevada. Chris Levy is the man behind DRM, both for the US GOVERNMENT and for the RIAA, MPAA, and other media associations throughout the world and the one and only man who decides the fate of ZEROPAID.com. He finances Zeropaid.com to collect data for his DRM activities. Again, the only way he can convince his clients to purchase his Digital Rights Management software is to show them Zeropaid.com and the damage that P2P is doing to the P2P industry.

Anybody who runs DRM needs a database to collect his P2P information so that he can fight it. He tells his media clients to look at that data to make their decisions when purchasing his DRM software.

So again, Chris Headcock and Jorge are slaves who get the credit while all along, its Mr. Levy who pulls the strings. Basically a classic "A King maker is always stronger than the King himself"

DRM plans to infest all P2P networks with media files that are digitally encrypted. This is worst than downloading a misnamed or fake file. It takes you hours if not days to download a movie, and then you realize upon opening it that the media has a plugin that opens a port on your computer.

That port is an inbound/outbound port. This allows the DRM servers to install spyshit on your computer. Lately, the RIAA has been using this technology to hack P2Pr's computers - specifically thanks to this ****ing ******* Mr. Levy's technology.

If you dont pay for the movie, you may face litigation for downloading it. Again, this is their plan...to make money by extorting us.

You must ban Zeropaid.com and say '**** you' to the DRM activists.

DRM does not have a network of its own. It is there to infiltrate and infest itself into P2P networks. We must fight them. Wake up NOW before it is to late.

The DRM methods of controlling your computer are no more legal or non-legal than you doing P2P. You have rights. Your registry keys and other info from your computer that is a "digital blueprint" is what they are after. They want to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in court when they sue you. They want to know everything about you.

I wouldnt be suprised, since Mr. Chrisopher Levy did in fact graduate from a military academy, and did in fact serve as an official appointee to Japan of the US Government, that this technology, and more importantly the database to hold P2P'rs private information, is nothing more than a GOVERNMENT HOAX to gather information on us. It makes sense.

BE CAREFUL. There is no difference between a "Reason" and an "Excuse". Mr. Headcock of ZP has many reasons and many excuses. Dont buy the **** he sells out of his mouth. He's a businessman and you are his prey. The name ZEROPAID reflects NO COST. Thats all bullshit. The price is very high.

To be continued...
  #2 (permalink)  
Old September 21st, 2003
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default Re: Beware of Zeropaid.com forums - They are a Honeypot Trap - Heres the Proof!

Quote:
Originally posted by Naked Truth
Notice Chris Headcock only shows 250 posts using the name "Dubstylee". He claims to have owned ZP for 4 years, and only has 250 posts? Yeah right! Notice that the birthday accounts were all opened in April, May, June of 2002. Notice when DUBSTYLEE opened his account - APRIL 2002!
This point is very easy to explain.

1. They use vBulletin since May 2002 and before that they used an other board software - ALL people started with 0 posts after that!!!

2. They tested the board software some weeks before they opened the forum.

I hope your other points have more truth and are better researched. I donīt like zeropaid too (the reasons are personal), but I donīt want that users badmouth other websites without a reason...

I will send Chris a mail that he can reply to this thread (if he want to).

Morgwen

Last edited by Morgwen; September 21st, 2003 at 11:32 AM.
  #3 (permalink)  
Old September 22nd, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 22nd, 2003
Posts: 13
streamOG is flying high
Default just naked. no truth

seriously this is a joke right? your kidding right?
  #4 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 15th, 2003
Posts: 15
Naked Truth is flying high
Default

What part of me is NAKED without TRUTH? Go to forums.es5.com and you will see all the proof you need.

Plus, look at the evidence in the URLS printed above. What more do you need?

For the last 2 days, all of the Zeropaid.com forum members ip addresses are floating around the internet because they got hacked.

Here: http://geocities.com/zerostored

Go ask METALE who is a senior Zeropaid member if her IP address isnt on that list. ZP is trying desperately to cover this up and has been erasing every thread with this link inside of it.

Lets make a simple test. I dare anybody here on this forum board to go to Zeropaid.com and do one of the 2.

1) Ask if Zeropaid.com was hacked and if the ip addresses in that link are real. Simple question, and your only asking for a simple answer.

2) Ask Zeropaid.com straight out if they are involved with DRM.

I will bet any of you that you will be BANNED from Zeropaid.com before anybody can answer you.

Exibit Number #1
http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701
(Read at the last paragraph of ZP's connection to DRM)

or Christohper Hedgecocks comments:
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200..._0403_003.shtml

Chris actually invites DRM people to his site to learn P2P users habits so that he can promote sales of DRM software. He is quoted here as telling DRM clients to flood the P2P networks with DRM media to create Pay 2 Peer networks. What happens if Gnutella gets flooded with all Pay 2 Peer ****? No more movies or music, rather all bullshit files.

So isnt it okay to question ZP about this? Or is that spam?

Dont let them tell you its OLD NEWS and that Chris is no longer with DRM. On October 8th, at 1:00 PM (See: TECHNOLOGY), Chris Hedgecock and Chris Levy (creator of DRM) are appearing together at CONTENT WORLDS convention on DRM. Thats CURRENT NEWS!

http://www.contentworld.com/confere...con_glance.html

If you ask them about their connection to DRM, you will be banned from ZP.

If you ask them if the IP addresses listed in http://geocities.com/zerostored are real, you will be banned and the thread erased.

Now ask yourself why? Those are real valid questions. If this respectable forum was questioned on similar issues, the mods would answer straight out without banning anybody. They'd probably laugh at the person who posted it. What does a P2P forum have to do with DRM?

Understand, I am not here to promote ES5 P2P software. I have respect for Gnutella, and my only purpose is to make you aware of the Zeropaid.com forums.

Please dont flame me, just look into this information for your own safety. The facts speak for themselves. BAN ZEROPAID.COM FORUMS and BAN DRM ACTIVISTS WHO WANT TO SCREW P2P NETWORKS LIKE GNUTELLA UP!

Everybody here on this forum needs to voice out against Digital Rights Management (DRM) before it is to late.
  #5 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 22nd, 2003
Posts: 13
streamOG is flying high
Default Lies

Naked Truth your posting is libelous and slanderous and full of lies.

I am in no way affiliated with ZeroPaid.com or it's business.

Furthermore anyone who would dare shoot without looking is to be ignored in the larger debate.

Last edited by streamOG; September 24th, 2003 at 03:02 AM.
  #6 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default Re: Lies

Quote:
Originally posted by streamOG
Naked Truth your posting is libelous and slanderous and full of lies.

I am in no way affiliated with ZeroPaid.com or it's business.
Naked truth asked which parts arenīt truth...

please explain me this:

http://www.streamingmedia.com/bio.asp?id=701

Especially this part here:
"Levy was recently featured in the Hungry Mind's Release: "The Streaming Media Bible" and has appeared on ABCNews.com, StreamingMedia.com, ZDNet.com and has spoken at The Internext-Expo, The Streaming Media Conference, Digital Hollywood, NATPE, NAB and SXSW. Levy currently manages Business Development for ZeroPaid.com the World's Largest file sharing news portal."

As you see you are the Business Developer for zeropaid.com!!!

or this here:

http://www.streamingmedia.com/press/view.asp?id=1621

Especially this here:
"In addition, EmpireDRM’s Christopher Levy and Chris Hedgecock will be featured speakers at Internext- Expo, January 6-8, 2003, Sands Convention Expo, Las Vegas, NV. Levy and Hedgecock will lead discussions on DRM and P2P technologies as well as new media revenue opportunities for 2003. http://www.internet-expo.com"

You know that Chris Hedgecock is one of the admins of zeropaid?

So I asked you which parts arenīt true and PLEASE with proofes.

Morgwen
  #7 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 22nd, 2003
Posts: 13
streamOG is flying high
Default Veritas

I have not worked with ZeroPaid in over 9 months. That BIo on Streaming Media.com is old. It will be updated today.

Yes EARLIER this year Hedgecock and I spoke on a panel about DRM. So what. Many DRM and P2P experts do this. What's your point?

Again, your assumptions about some conspiracy theory are VERY weak. Very weak.

And Hedgecock is not speaking at ContentWorld either. Thats just an outright lie.

I think what you have here is a disgruntled ES5 Person who violated the ZeroPaid community and now they have a grudge and they are REALLY REALLY REACHING for straws.
  #8 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default Re: Veritas

Quote:
Originally posted by streamOG
I have not worked with ZeroPaid in over 9 months. That BIo on Streaming Media.com is old. It will be updated today.

Yes EARLIER this year Hedgecock and I spoke on a panel about DRM. So what. Many DRM and P2P experts do this. What's your point?
1. I think this exuse is very lame... first you say you are in NO WAY AFFILATED with them and now you say you arenīt at the moment!!! So you worked at least 3 years for zeropaid...

2. Many P2P experts do that? None of them who I know, and SURE NONE of them which owns a P2P portal! The point is that you worked for zeropaid and DRM and nobody will believe your "we just talked story". The users will think that Chris Hedgecock is a TRAITOR!!!

P2P is a very tricky business and everybody who is supposed to speak and work with the "enemy" is dead for the community.

What was your point?

Morgwen
  #9 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Disciple
 
Join Date: September 22nd, 2003
Posts: 13
streamOG is flying high
Default Veritas

Again your wrong. I never worked at MSN or ZeroPaid for 3 years. If you read my bio you would know this.

I met Hedge and Jorge last year during the summer and was associated with them for about 6 months. Again your Naked and your posting is full of lies.

And your wrong about P2P experts not speaking about DRM publicly or working to monetize P2P networks. Take a look at www.joltid.com They use Microsoft's DRM product and they INVENTED KAZAA. Do you have a reply to this?

You probably don't know this but the media and entertainment and adult industries are coming to P2P experts in DROVES to figure out how to monetize P2P networks.

FOR EXAMPLE: Jorge from ZeroPaid designed the DRM system that BuyMusic.com uses after he saw the DRM code from my previous company DRM Networks.

If YOU were smart you would figure out how to monetize P2P too or would you just spend the rest of your life stealing from people you don't know?
  #10 (permalink)  
Old September 24th, 2003
Morgwen's Avatar
lazy dragon - retired mod
 
Join Date: October 14th, 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 2,927
Morgwen is flying high
Default Re: Veritas

Quote:
Originally posted by streamOG
If YOU were smart you would figure out how to monetize P2P too or would you just spend the rest of your life stealing from people you don't know?
Who said that I want to be smart? People are stealing from others, that is life nobody can change this. And there will be traitors and nobody can change this also... so long.

Morgwen
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: https://www.gnutellaforums.com/general-p2p-network-discussion/21873-beware-zeropaid-com-forums-they-honeypot-trap-heres-proof.html
Posted By For Type Date
Site Gnutella Forums | www.gnutellaforums.com | BoardReader This thread Refback August 11th, 2013 03:08 AM

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
heres my system details WONDER WHY hrpuffnstuff General Windows Support 40 October 20th, 2010 09:56 PM
burn proof lick2k Open Discussion topics 2 January 16th, 2006 04:52 PM
NO MORE TOPICS ON D/L'ing HERES THE FIX! Fire292Rescue Download/Upload Problems 2 August 19th, 2005 06:36 PM
Kernel Trap Lennie Download/Upload Problems 0 December 20th, 2003 09:15 AM
Is this a trap? J Hayes Open Discussion topics 1 March 17th, 2003 12:28 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright Đ 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.