Cool, thanks Sleepless.

wow...dunno how many tunes this dood has, but I've go mine pretty much full and haven't run into that limitation...yet, I guess...

Can't remember the exact number of files that will fit on the root on these players. It's in one of the other threads.

Of course people who sort their music will never know this problem even exists

well...the online literature (yeah, mine is MIA) says up to 500 songs...and says nothing about any other limitations..

The Creative Zen has a way lower number than that for the root. Like 180 or something. That's why he needs that little folder trick. Like you can put 180 files or 2-3 folders with 180 in each.

edit:

Missed that. Maybe he hit that 500 limit then. I must be mistaken with the name of the player.

actually..I'm not arguing your statements but pointing out what the online literature says....the average size of my mp3s is ~6MB, so using that 'model' that's about 170 tunes..which is below the threshold of 180 you mention...if you are correct in that figure, then the reason I haven't seen it is because I haven't reached it yet!

welp...just dug up the printed manual, and have looked through the manual on the included CD...nada re:limitations as are being discussed here..

now..that's not to say they don't exist and Creative is 'covering it up'..