Quote from Vinnie:

Gnucleus code base [...] is a bulky outdated code base that badly needs a rewrite.
I rather doubt Gnucleus will see the rewrite that it needs because it has no commercial support.
So we will see Gnucleus code base get more and more tangled up, harder to work on, and bug-ridden.

05-12-2002 http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showt...threadid=12305

I wonder how much Vinnie learned from the "buggy" Gnucleus code!

Morgwen

Manners and Vinnie...

is like...

water and fire!

Morgwen

Well, Vinnie certainly has a point there, I mean, did you actually ever look at Gnucleus source code? It's not very structured or readable and this kind of code is very vulnerable to any bugs.

- However I haven't seen BearShares sources so it's hard to tell if Vinnie has any right to point fingers at Gnucleus.

The Gnuclues code base is in great shape, it is very clean and I am always getting nice little patches and fixes in the mail from developers who are also interested in the project. The number of directions the project can go from here is almost limitless to me, so many things that can be done.

The funny thing is we can't see Vinnie's pile of crap, thrown together to make a buck source code, so all I can say is

SHOW ME YOUR CODE VINNIE !

Like his is any better, and he probably stole most of it from open source clients anyway.

Gnucleus uses C++, so it's a mess anyway. Why people thought this was a good thing is beyond me.

c++ is a great language to code in, everything is spread out into their own files, declarations and fuction bodies are seperated into their own files, unlike java and c#. And being object-oriented everything in gnucleus is a component, like a download or upload object.

The gnucleus code was not written compact and complicated, it is very open, easy to read. Many programmers have come to the project with no prior experience with us and have plugged in some pretty advanced features. If you go to www.gnucleus.net you can see in the stucture section that the framework of the program is well laid out. The program was designed from the beginning with other open-source developers in mind.

The above comments on outdated code where originaly posted by Vinnie in the Bearshare forum as a reply to negative comments directed to him about his software

As usual, Morgwen has decided to use Gnutella as a platform to launch his own agenda (getting attention mainly).

More intelligent forum users who are interested in forming their own opinion can read my analysis of Gnucleus code base, which is meant more as an information source rather than a condemnation or criticism.

These comments from me came about as a reaction to remarks regarding comparisons of BearShare versus Gnucleus, so I felt it was appropriate to reply.

The comments:
http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showt...7551#post97551

No disrespect Kath, but Morgwen needs to learn more. Morgwen is just trying to get a reaction. If you would have read bearshare.net, you would have seen Morgwen take Vinnie's comments out of text and then say that someone should post on Gnutelliums that Vinnie is bad mouthing Gnucleus. Guess what, an Unregistered user posted it, followed by a post from Morgwen.

The sad part is the misleading posts by Morgwen's do not end there, just today he has stated the below lies about BearShare?

He has stated that BearShare has closed their host cache to other gnutella clients. He has stated they block Xolox.

The facts are BearShare has given gnutelliums and MusicCity a host cache to run for Morpheus and other Gnutella clients. CycloCide knows this.

BearShare has never blocked Xolox only .4 connections which included any BearShare 2.3.0 or below and this was done at the Host Cache level. BearShare the client never blocked Xolox.

A serious question is what has Morgwen contributed to the development of Gnutella? I have never seen a post from him in the_gdf, I have never seen a proposal, nothing constructive. I have only seen this kid post misleading comments and lies regarding BearShare and LimeWire.

What I have to ask, if he is suppose to be a bias helper to the Gnutelliums forum, why is he posting such negative comments about good community based clients?

I strongly suggest that he be removed as one of the moderators here.