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Old May 19th, 2002
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FreePeers has become a threat to the Gnutella community and needs to be stopped in its tracks, in my opinion at least.
Nobody can understand why Vinie is running berzerk against Gnutella and Gnutella fans.
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Old May 19th, 2002
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Vinnies code SUX!!!
Lets see the code!! post it now! don't try to fix it up, it's a big mess and you know it! That's why he hides it!
And we all know he steals code from open source projects, another good reason to keep it to himself, otherwise he couldn't charge for his "pro" version!
It SUX!!!
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Old May 20th, 2002
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Flame warriors suck. period.

That aside, what Moak said made me curious. I fail to see why bearshare leaving and creating its own network would help gnutella. Bearshare may contribute to fracturing of gnutella, compartmentalization etc. But them leaving and taking their large user base and their files with them and going to a new network would really be compartmentalization, far more so than things are now. Why would this help? I don't know everything, these are honest questions (not rhetorical) and I'm hoping for an answer.

I mean, does bearshare download from other clients while refusing to upload them? That would suck, but I can't see how anything short of that would hurt the gnutella network.

And yes, spyware sucks, we all know this. This is why I myself would never use bearshare, but if others choose to have it on their computer, so what? why does that affect you so personally?
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Old May 20th, 2002
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Don't be a BearShare brown noser ! Join the millions of happy Gnucleus users who have switched to a better client !

Why should BearShare leave? If you had a leech sucking blood from you, you would get rid of it, even though it might hurt a bit taking it out.

Vinnies code sux!
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Old May 20th, 2002
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Default Vinnie (Bearshare) is badmouthing Gnucleus

vinnie if i had a pos like bare share i would not talk. i am on a dial up and tried bd i got dl of about 2.0 to 4.0 kbs , o u as it it the dial up whell a high spead game internet cafie opend the lets u playgames localy or file sharing using beasshairon a t-1 line 1.5mbs i spend about 1and a galf hours looking for mus i get about 75 meg dl i though i would get a lt more the that .the average dl rate was about 500kbs i also saw 300 alot and 100 .verry disopented. the filal conclusion dont use bs use gunclues or mx i will neve use touch bs again autoshot
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Old May 20th, 2002
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Hello and welcome, here it is, the one and only BearShare source code which I got from *VERY* secret sources, that means shhht don't tell it anybody or gnutella will become better than other p2p networks

10 REM BearShare code - not for the public
20 REM by VinnieSoft...ummm ok i call it FreePeers
30 REM
40 REM ok let's do some codings...
50 CLS
60 PRINT "BearShare 3.00"
70 REM this is the only line that has to be changed!!!!!!
80 REM Now let's see if there is some gnucleus on the PC
90 found% = SEARCH("gnucleus.exe")
100 REM If we found it, we can use it, otherwise we have to use the old version built into Bearshare
110 IF found%=TRUE THEN SHELL "gnucleus.exe"
120 REM Let's phone home
130 OPEN "Winsock" FOR phoning home AS #1
140 PRINT #1, User's Credit Card Number&
150 REM Check if the user wants to uninstall Bearshare and prevent this
160 IF UnInstall=True THEN SHELL "rundll.exe windowscrash"
170 REM And we also need to check if our SaveNow is installed
180 IF Exists%("SaveNow.exe")=FALSE Then SHELL "rundll.exe windowscrash"
190 REM Ok i'll now have a break for some months, maybe i'll fly to Hawaii or to Australia where the weather is fine
200 END


I hope you guys don't take this serious, it was a joke, i hope BS code doesn't look like this........
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lol @ phantomix that's good

unregistered: I understand that you don't like BearShare (I don't use/like it either) but you told me nothing that convinced me that it is bad for the network as a whole. I remain unconvinced that it is bad even for people who don't use it.

VinniesCodeSux: yeah thanks. The leech analogy is really enlightening

Yeah, I don't like BearShare, but what does it do to gnutella that hurts it so bad we'd be better off without the hordes who use it and their files?
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Yeah, I don't like BearShare, but what does it do to gnutella that hurts it so bad we'd be better off without the hordes who use it and their files?
Is files all that count? I have no problem if Vinnie stays or goes, I want an improved protocol. And I want that Vinnie realizes that Gnutella is the community and not bearshare (also his users)!

If he leaves I wouldn´t really care, because most of his users would switch back to Gnutella... or use it at least together with bearshare. What do you think why Vinnie didn´t split from Gnutella? Because his net would have much less files than Gnutella!

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hordes who use it? Is that the one or the two people all together?
Want to tell me how many? It's not that big, and it's getting smaller all the time.
Morpheus brought more users in one day than BS has gotten from a year of trying. You should be more worried about them leaving.
BS sucks, the author sucks, it needs to go.
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hordes who use it? Is that the one or the two people all together?
Want to tell me how many? It's not that big, and it's getting smaller all the time.
Morpheus brought more users in one day than BS has gotten from a year of trying. You should be more worried about them leaving.
BS sucks, the author sucks, it needs to go.
Most interesting.
If you have the statistics on actual active users it would be very good for you to share them with all of us, perhaps even under a Registered Name.
We await your fascinating data to be revealed.

Of course it is always possible that the figures may not be real because no one actually knows - or is that not true?

Don't stand under any

while you're checking the data!

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