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fried122 June 12th, 2009 12:32 PM

Yellow Light Not Firewall One
 
Hi I am new to this & I have no tech ability or understanding so be kind . I had BS for 7 years never a problem & I use it all the time. Lately I could not connect so I uninstalled & reinstalled BS 5.1.0b25 & bear start from another forum. I got BS to open but the 1st light blinks yellow never goes green. I was able to search got hits but when I try to download the song name turns red & says need more sources....What do I do to GO GREEN? Easy now remember I am a novice. HELP!
:sos:

Lord of the Rings June 12th, 2009 07:46 PM

You will probably need to remove any old BearShare listing from your firewall exceptions, & then re-add a fresh one for this version of Bearshare, making exception for both TCP & UDP, depending on your firewall might need to be separate rules or sub-rules under same main bearshare exception listing.

If you hover your cursor over the yellow light, it may tell you the reason for it. ;) It's my guess your firewall is at fault. :)

Peerless June 12th, 2009 10:02 PM

I get the flashing yellow light all the time..when the damned henchmen of the RIAA/MPAA are DDOSing me...but I still get search results and downloads....I'm thinking that using PG2 will help this person out...

fried122 June 13th, 2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344646)
You will probably need to remove any old BearShare listing from your firewall exceptions, & then re-add a fresh one for this version of Bearshare, making exception for both TCP & UDP, depending on your firewall might need to be separate rules or sub-rules under same main bearshare exception listing.

If you hover your cursor over the yellow light, it may tell you the reason for it. ;) It's my guess your firewall is at fault. :)

Lord of the Rings, I think you are correct, I hovered over the 4th light which is now yellow. It said TCP firewalled & the same for UDP, I also see you tell me to remove & re add making exceptions for both TCP & UDP. But as I stated in my post I am a novice & have no idea how to do this. Sorry to be a bother but I need detailed step by step instructions. Do you think you could help me with that. Thanks so much..

fried122 June 16th, 2009 07:38 AM

I still need help I do not know how to fix the firewall problem. Please help & try to break it down in simple terms. I need BS.

Peerless June 16th, 2009 09:41 AM

sorry d00d, but we mods once tried using crystal balls and found them to be rather unreliable...

The_Point being, its rather hard to give any sort of advice no knowing what you are using for a firewall, now isn't it...

also in your first post you make a reference to the first light....what first light?

most cultures read from left to right, so in my eyes your reference refers to the light that is about hosts connections...as noted, mine always blinks yellow and green but I have no issues...the light on the far right is for network connectivity and mine is always in the green once I get connected to at least one host...

in the setup field of BS there is the field for connections...you will notice there is a field in that menu for defining the port (which has to be the same for both TCP and UDP)....I set mine to 6348...this is the port you would have to enter as information, if needed, into your firewall settings...

again, since you don't bother to give any information about your firewall, we can't give any relevant advice...many firewalls do the setup pretty much automatically..the program tries to access the internet, the firewall catches it and asks what to do (usually a yes or no), you say yes, and viola, it works...

Lord of the Rings June 16th, 2009 10:43 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Go to Start menu -> Control Panel -> Windows Firewall, open. Click on Exceptions, press Add program & add Bearshare. You can also use the Ports button to add TCP and UDP port ranges.

BTW did you replace the old connection cache with a newer one? You can find a fresh one as an attachment below called Bearshare-cache.zip

Once downloaded, unzip it. Open that folder, move the contents to C:\Program Files\BearShare Test\db
ie: Go to your Programs folder -> BearShare -> DB folder & drop the contents of the Bearshare-cache folder inside to replace the older ones. BearShare must be closed whilst you do this. :)

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...e-db-cache.gif

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fried122 June 16th, 2009 10:46 AM

[quote=Peerless;344796]sorry d00d, but we mods once tried using crystal balls and found them to be rather unreliable...

The_Point being, its rather hard to give any sort of advice no knowing what you are using for a firewall, now isn't it...

also in your first post you make a reference to the first light....what first light?

most cultures read from left to right, so in my eyes your reference refers to the light that is about hosts connections...as noted, mine always blinks yellow and green but I have no issues...the light on the far right is for network connectivity and mine is always in the green once I get connected to at least one host...

in the setup field of BS there is the field for connections...you will notice there is a field in that menu for defining the port (which has to be the same for both TCP and UDP)....I set mine to 6348...this is the port you would have to enter as information, if needed, into your firewall settings...

again, since you don't bother to give any information about your firewall, we can't give any relevant advice...many firewalls do the setup pretty much automatically..the program tries to access the internet, the firewall catches it and asks what to do (usually a yes or no), you say yes, and viola, it works...[
Peerless, I know what you mean about crystal balls & if mine worked I would not need help.

I am sorry if I am frustrating you but imagine how I feel because I am so clueless.

In my first post I was talking about the 1st light, I do read left to right, but after that when I went back on BS the 4th light was yellow also which is why I made another post asking Lord of the Rings about it.

I would be happy to give you all the info you need to help me but I dont no jack about where to or how to find it.

In the setup field for BS the defining port is now set at 6833, it was at 6348 before but on another site one of the solutions given to me was to change it. A BS instruction page opened & I followed it.

Since I am so in the dark about how to help myself so you can help me maybe you can tell me is there some other site where I can get music. BS was easy for me & as I am sure you picked up on that I need easy.
Thanks for trying anyway.

Peerless June 16th, 2009 11:08 AM

try this simple test for gnutella and see if it works...

http://www3.limewire.com:6346/

fried122 June 16th, 2009 11:18 AM

Thank you Lord of the Rings, I did the cache but its still the same. It must be the firewall thing.

fried122 June 16th, 2009 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peerless (Post 344801)
try this simple test for gnutella and see if it works...

http://www3.limewire.com:6346/


not sure if it was a joke or not but it worked........

Peerless June 16th, 2009 11:36 AM

its a simple test...one that shows whether or not you can get connected to the network...since it worked, we know you at least have the capability..

so far I haven't seen nearly enough information to make any real response....


http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...-you-post.html

Lord of the Rings June 16th, 2009 11:37 AM

Have you tried forcing your BS into ultrapeer mode? Check your options. This may or may not help. My BS was working fine an hour ago with downloads be they from many or a single host.

If you used BS happily for years, is there anything that's changed recently that might have affected it? Windows SP updates or other types of updates, etc. Or perhaps added some security software.

fried122 June 18th, 2009 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peerless (Post 344805)
its a simple test...one that shows whether or not you can get connected to the network...since it worked, we know you at least have the capability..

so far I haven't seen nearly enough information to make any real response....


http://www.gnutellaforums.com/connec...-you-post.html

I am trying to give you more info. Will any of this help? My forth light says TCP firewalled UDP firewalled. I am trying to connect from work, I am using windows xp pro sp3, I have 782.8 available ram, disk space available 28.82, the router is Netopia 2247NWG, there is also another box that says Sonicwall TZ190. I am trying to use BS 5.1.0b25 & bearstart. I have windows firewall off but I allowed TCP & UDP for port 6348, I am in forced ultrapeer mode. I do not think there have been any updates to the system & up until last week I was using a different BS version I think it was 5.2.5.9 but when that stopped working I downloaded the BS 5.1.0b25. I tried port forwarding for Netopia 2247 because Netopia 2247NWG did not show up on the list but I could not gain access when I got to the point of enter network password. Thats all I got for now, I just want BS to work is there anything you can tell me from this info or do I need more. Thanks

Lord of the Rings June 18th, 2009 09:06 AM

Try these instructions: Port Forwarding BearShare on the Netopia 2247NWG-VGx

However, before you actually create a port forward rule, you need to set up a Static ip address first: Static ip for Windows XP

For your router, by default the username is admin and the password is 1234

Another password you could try: admin1 or admin

Peerless June 18th, 2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fried122 (Post 344893)
I am trying to give you more info. Will any of this help? I am trying to connect from work


yeah....take the following with a grain of salt...

perhaps you should be working, not filesharing...I guess it didn't occur to you that people in your company want you to work and have therefor implemented measures to prevent you from doing activities that they deem inappropriate on THEIR premises using THEIR internet connection..

fried122 June 18th, 2009 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344897)
Try these instructions: Port Forwarding BearShare on the Netopia 2247NWG-VGx

However, before you actually create a port forward rule, you need to set up a Static ip address first: Static ip for Windows XP

For your router, by default the username is admin and the password is 1234

Another password you could try: admin1 or admin

I miswrote in my post it was the Netopia 2247NWG-VGx I tried. This is what happened I tried set up static ip followed all the steps the last thing said if you do not have a dot in obtain an ip address automatically your connection is already set up for static ip. No dot on mine. I then went back to port forwarding put in 6348 for BS incoming port, next said enter static ip address_ I did not make one because I had a dot so I put in my ip address but changed the last portion. The next thing tells me to enter router ip address in a browser I entered the ip address no window opened it just said failed to connect page load error. I used internet explorer & firefox both did not work. So how do I forward a port if I cant get past this point.

When the netopia ddidn't work for me I saw sonicwall on the router list, so I tried sonicwall TZ 170 (Not 190 I know) but when it gets to ip address I get the same thing failed to connect page load error. I cant procede to forward a port does this mean I cant have BS anymore?

fried122 June 18th, 2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peerless (Post 344904)
yeah....take the following with a grain of salt...

perhaps you should be working, not filesharing...I guess it didn't occur to you that people in your company want you to work and have therefor implemented measures to prevent you from doing activities that they deem inappropriate on THEIR premises using THEIR internet connection..

Ok I got the grain of salt thing....but just so you know I work in a small private company & they know I use BS I have even gotten music for my boss. We use an outside place for our system & if I am blocked it is not because my company said to do it. So I guess my question is.....Is that the problem & if it is what do I have to tell these outside people to do so I can get back on BS? And as far as I know in the past couple of weeks they did not do anything to cause me blocked intentionally.

Lord of the Rings June 18th, 2009 10:34 AM

Port Forwarding BearShare on the Sonicwall TZ-170

fried122 June 18th, 2009 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344908)

As I said I tried that one also but when it gets to the part to put the routers ip in the address bar I get page load error unable to connect.

Lord of the Rings June 18th, 2009 11:07 AM

Did you type in 192.168.1.1 or www.192.168.1.1 ? No need to put www in front of it. You could also try 192.168.0.3

If neither of those work, then perhaps you do not have access permissions. Perhaps only the network manager has access.

fried122 June 18th, 2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344912)
Did you type in 192.168.1.1 or www.192.168.1.1 ? No need to put www in front of it. You could also try 192.168.0.3

If neither of those work, then perhaps you do not have access permissions. Perhaps only the network manager has access.

Ok I got it but i had to put http:// then the box opens for user name & password according to port forward I put admin as user & password as password don't work I tried admin1 password, admin 1234,admin1 1234 & others but nothing I tried gets me in.

Peerless June 18th, 2009 12:27 PM

OK...you have the owner's permission...kewl...I for one refuse to give advice on how to hack a workplace's network...that's not exactly kosher and can get this website shut down with the current laws in place...

in my first response in this thread I advised using PG2...have you done that?

here's the reason I ask...certain companies are being paid to DDOS the network and its users...recently I have noticed a marked increase in the severity of the attacks...now, if you are NOT using PG2 then you are wide open..PG2 will at the very least have a large number of these companies blocked and that will mitigate the effects of these attacks...note I said mitigate...I've been getting attacks at the rate of over 100/s recently from 3 specific organizations....

if you do decide to try PG2, you will notice upon start up of BS that an iMesh connection is attempted...in BS you will notice it as an attempt to connect to BS servers...this connection attempt is to get a list of hosts to be able to connect to....I found that since I don't use BS everyday that allowing this connection to happen (by right clicking on the attempt in PG2 and allowing the connection) results in getting connected quicker and gaining full UP status in minutes....if you use BS daily and are therefor keeping your cache of available hosts up to date then perhaps you need not allow this connection...

again, I can't more strongly advise the use of PG2 when filesharing...

at this point you have been apparently using BS without what I consider proper firewall protection and for all I know these paid henchmen of the RIAA/MPAA have already infected your machine with software/scripts that totally prevent you from getting connected...have you tried connecting using another machine?...it might just be that taking the time to backup data, formatting and doing a clean install might solve your issues...

PG2 is just a mini-firewall made specifically to black a list of certain IP addys...this does not replace a normal firewall rather compliments...i.e. you NEED a real firewall for a lot of reasons, not just using the gnutella network...

Lord of the Rings June 18th, 2009 05:29 PM

You didn't read the link very well. The password is password lol :D
If there's variations of that password, check other models & see what those passwords are for that brand. Sometimes firmware updates or later version routers with updated firmware have different passwords.

Other than that, see Peerless's post.

fried122 June 19th, 2009 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344931)
You didn't read the link very well. The password is password lol :D
If there's variations of that password, check other models & see what those passwords are for that brand. Sometimes firmware updates or later version routers with updated firmware have different passwords.

Other than that, see Peerless's post.

No, you did not read my post well. I said.... Ok I got it but i had to put http:// then the box opens for user name & password according to port forward I put admin as user & password as password don't work I tried admin1 password, admin 1234,admin1 1234 & others but nothing I tried gets me in. Thanks I did see Peerless's post

fried122 June 23rd, 2009 01:41 PM

No matter what I tried I could not get BS back. I asked the outside system guy if I am blocked from anything & he said I was not & no updates were done in the last few weeks since I lost BS. I just have a question for you guys & it may be dumb but I am asking anyway & hope you will answer me. I also had limewire but I never used it because I do not like it however I just went to see if that worked & it does It was limewire 5. My question is how come I can get Limewire & not BS? Is this normal or should I be able to get BS also?

Lord of the Rings June 23rd, 2009 02:01 PM

For a start, BS 5 beta does not have UPnP support, LW 5 does, plus LW has more advanced features for working with firewalls. BS has not been worked on now for several years so the technology is a little behind other still developing gnutella programs. :) LW has a full paid development team.

Check these two thread links see if they help you at all http://www.gnutellaforums.com/host-c...t-connect.html

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/host-c...nutella-5.html :)

The beta? http://www.gnutellaforums.com/193742-post1.html ;)

The Shadow June 30th, 2009 10:53 AM

The clock reset function bundled with the "The Last Safe Bearshare Beta" has caused the usual and expected problems on 100% of the last 23 computers on which I have attempted to install it.

These attempts have been exclusively for BS users with a minimum of 3 years 24/7 active experience. A few of them definitely predate almost all of you 'bosses', except Peerless.

So, please, no standard-issue replies for the elbow-typists.

The variety of anti-malware & anti/virus applications in use by the test group is grand - No need to name names because it involves every major program available.

? 1----------- Why are so many of you knowingly advising the masses to install a program ('Last Safe BS Beta') that will, in the great majority of cases, cause problems that are insurmountable for the majority of users? (Yes, simply knowing/remembering to go to the 'clock' setting to correct the date and time IS beyond the capacity of many users and makes many programs ((INCLUDING Windows XP)) go very bad indeed.)
The problem, obviously, is the system clock reset------ Testing it on a variety of machines from 6 years to 3 months old (as far as the 'technology' is concerned), 100% of them had very serious problems with numerous installed programs. Not only A/V apps.

? 2----------- What is the actual file type of the BS-Cache file?
It is NOT a standard WinZIP file.

KGB Archiver is NOT a WinZIP file.
What is difficult about supplying a simple and clean WinZIP or WinRAR file?
The offered BS-Cache file format is inexcusable.

I know that BS is 'dead'.

Please spare any platitudes and just give some straight info, OK?

btw, how about a LOT MORE INFO about those groups who are successfully attacking the Gnutella network?

I hope that you will all encourage users to 1st, regardless of what client they are using, do a search for their own name spelled backwards-----------
After a short time they will see the auto-generated responses from criminal intent servers and be able to make a note of the general file sizes------------- files that are very dangerous.

Above is no rant nor flame.
Just hoping for info on how to use BS--------
OR, please, somebody sound the 'official' death-knell of BS.

Lemmonwire June 30th, 2009 11:29 PM

It caused "serious problem" when installed on 1 or 2 computers , dont make much sense to continue install AND run on another 21 or 22 computers :shoot:

Change to something that work at least as good or better ,
like Shareaza that has Gnutella2 network.

Lord of the Rings July 1st, 2009 01:48 AM

The BS Test will only change clock time for a matter of a few seconds. There is no need to manually change the clock back.

Yes when the clock changes back it does cause issues with some security software, but that's a small price to pay for those who wish to continue using BS. If possible make BS an exception on all security software.
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Shadow (Post 345491)
... What is the actual file type of the BS-Cache file?
It is NOT a standard WinZIP file. ... KGB Archiver is NOT a WinZIP file. What is difficult about supplying a simple and clean WinZIP or WinRAR file?...

The cache zipped file 'I' supplied, I think was zipped with either the freeware TUGZip or mac osx's zip compressor which should be cross-platform compatible. TUGZip does the same thing as WinRAR & more, but is free. Zip is a more common format than rar, as not everyone has a utility to open rar files. This cache is simply an alternative to the one offered by AW & was offered to help the users in this & another couple of posts since that cache did not appear to work for them, but this one did. File appears to be Zip v.2.0. WinRar, Tugzip & another two extractors I used had no problems with opening that zip file.

More information about those who are attacking the Gnutella network? erm .. there's even a special section on this forum which discusses a part of this & links to other posts discussing about this. Not to mention the thread in question repeated in almost every section of the forums. Did you try the forum search function? :)
A link toward the topic of spam Virus thread: Typical virus spam file sizes - Make a note of them (click on blue link to see). Although this article was written as advice in techniques for LimeWire users, it also applies to all other gnutella clients: How to find music

BTW the same company (MusicLab LLC) that took over Bearshare also 'hijacked' ShareAza, took over their site & their forums. Now the original ShareAza devs have been forced to move to Sourceforge (just weeks ago), which is a site for open source dev projects. Any version of Shareaza above 3 is a fake & is basically identical to iMesh & bearflix. There is a link between MusicLab & the RIAA.

Lord of the Rings July 1st, 2009 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemmonwire (Post 345512)
It caused "serious problem" when installed on 1 or 2 computers , dont make much sense to continue install AND run on another 21 or 22 computers ...

There are lots of alternative Gnutella programs if using BS is causing problems for you as Lemmonwire suggested. :)

Peerless July 1st, 2009 08:58 AM

I was kind of thrown by that .zip file comment until I read LOTR's response....since the files in the BS program files folder is either a .txt or a .dat file the mentioning of a .zip file was weird....

why the advising to use it?...because its a good program that besides the time/date hack works fine...

as far as the ol' death knell concept, might as well ring that bell for all the gnutella clients besides LW and Phex...

so you've had issues with the time date hack eh?....I never have, but my daughter has 3 times on her machine, that being the date becoming locked and refusing to go back after 15-30 seconds....

as far as comparing it to any other version of BS, the beta version does have the ol' force UP option which makes it a step above any other version...

as mentioned there are other alternatives which some would argue as being better..


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