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afisk August 1st, 2002 12:38 PM

LimeWire 2.5.5 Beta
 
LimeWire 2.5.5 Beta is now available from our web site at:

http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/download_beta

The pro version of the beta is also, as always, available from your pro download page.

This version fixes a number of bugs from LimeWire 2.5.4, and it should be significantly more stable as a result. It also adds HTTP "HEAD" requests to all uploaders once your download has completed. This notifies those uploaders of all new alternate locations for the file that the downloader has discovered during the download process, allowing those uploaders to report the new alternate locations to others on the network. 2.5.5, then, will propagate the "download mesh" significantly more than previous versions.

Thanks everyone!

bobomon August 1st, 2002 12:46 PM

First thanks for continuing to improve your product - one of my favorites. Once gripe though ... since moving to 2.5.x every install has blown away my previous preferences... which sucks since I have several blocked IPs etc. can you guys have a look at that... or at least publish a method of saving pref's so I do not have to re-enter every time? thanks!

Krieger88 August 1st, 2002 01:01 PM

You could make a backup copy of your limewire.props file. I don't know where it's located on windows but all the options, including blocked ips and keywords are there-in contained.

afisk August 1st, 2002 02:15 PM

That's not good, considering that the new Windows installer is designed not to blow away your old props file. You're on Windows, right? The versions before this would simply place a bland limewire.props in the new install directory, but the newer windows installers are designed to detect where your previous limewire.props was stored and copy it over to your new directory. This does not happen for you, though? This has only been in the code for 2.5.x versions -- so it will only pick up limewire.props files from previous 2.5.x installs.

Thanks.

spearson August 1st, 2002 02:31 PM

Thanks for continuing to improve your product. I like to Use LimeWire. Its a great Program.:D

spearson August 1st, 2002 02:37 PM

When ever I open Limewire. It says "Checking for Updates" but it does not find the 2.5.5 version? is this because its 2.5.5 Beta?:confused:

Rickmanski August 1st, 2002 03:19 PM

Is the new version out for Macs?
Where do I find the Pro download page...for the 2.5.5 version.
Great program.

bobomon August 1st, 2002 09:47 PM

Quote:

Posted by Afisk
That's not good, considering that the new Windows installer is designed not to blow away your old props file. You're on Windows, right? The versions before this would simply place a bland limewire.props in the new install directory, but the newer windows installers are designed to detect where your previous limewire.props was stored and copy it over to your new directory. This does not happen for you, though? This has only been in the code for 2.5.x versions -- so it will only pick up limewire.props files from previous 2.5.x installs.
Well speak of the devil!!! - I just loaded 2.5.5 and it did indeed preserve my previous props. I had been having this problem with all of the other incremental 2.5.x updates but this one is SWEET!!!

Thanks
:) :) :)

afisk August 2nd, 2002 08:13 AM

Hey, no problem. That's been one of my many little pet projects over the last couple of weeks. I did fix some bugs with it for 2.5.5, so that's probably why it's fixed.

On the update issue, we definitely don't turn on the update for any betas. In fact, we often leave the update off even for official releases. This is because we release so often, that we only update people to really stable releases and to releases with really nice new features. Otherwise, the update messages would just get annoying.

This is going live momentarily. Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

spearson August 2nd, 2002 09:24 AM

And thanks to you for developing this great program.:D

Joakim Agren August 2nd, 2002 10:05 AM

Hello!

Hopefully this version will be a stable one!.But can you precise more exactly which bugs from the previous realese that have been fixed in this version?.

Do this new version have the Query HIt Counter in the Library or is that a future update?

Thanks for a great product!

But you should check out the download directory:

http://www3.limewire.com/download

Thats the directory where all the older versions and the newest versions where downloable but now when you visit it you get an URL error 404 not found.So it needs to be fixed.

spearson August 2nd, 2002 11:34 AM

It Seems stable for me Joakim. Thanks for the link.:)

afisk August 2nd, 2002 01:59 PM

Joakim-

That link is working for me. Does it work for you now? 2.5.5 does not include the new statistics in the library -- that feature will be added with the next version. LimeWire 2.5.5 primarily fixes a number of bugs that were found in 2.5.4, mostly having to do with changes we've made to the HTTP uploads. 2.5.5 should also exhibit significant performance improvements if you're sharing a large number of files.

The only new feature that 2.5.5 adds is one that will not be apparent to the users -- we now make HTTP HEAD requests to all uploaders once a downloader has finished completing a download. This allows the downloader to inform all uploaders of alternate locations for the file, including itself. This also allows the uploaders to notify the downloader of any new alternate locations that they have identified since the downloader made its original request. Basically, this version propagates the "download mesh" significantly more than earlier versions, ultimately making downloading more reliable for everyone!

ErikB5 August 2nd, 2002 02:05 PM

With Limewire 2.5.5 Pro (Beta) I still get the multiple-file creation of size 0 for new attempts to retrieve a file. This behaviour only appeared in release 2.5.x (I believe).

On another note, I moved my client for 3 hours to Ultrapeers status, and I was surprised to see only Limewire clients as leafs... Still get the odd Limewire @version@ leaf.

Krieger88 August 2nd, 2002 02:08 PM

"limewire @version@" is the user agent string from clients that were compiled from cvs without setting the user agent string at compile time or in the sources.

afisk August 2nd, 2002 05:45 PM

Erik-

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "the multiple-file creation of size 0." Are you talking about seeing size=0 in search results? If so, this is the result of a small change we made in 2.5.x versions where servers will report size 0 when, in fact, the server is no longer serving that file. We actually changed this back for 2.5.5 so that the server will still return the file's original size, even though it's no longer shared. In the long run, we will likely change it to dynamically remove these files from the server's file cache, but this is a more involved change.

Is this what you're referring to (seeing files of size 0 in search results)?

Thanks.

ErikB5 August 2nd, 2002 06:00 PM

Sorry AFisk, but it isn't there that I see lots of size 0 files. It's in my incomplete directory. When LW tries to retrieve a file it will create an empty file (size=0) with the filenumber-filename. If it can't retrieve the file (busy, noanswer), it will try another host, and create a new temporary file. What I get after some use is 5 files being transfered and maybe 15 empty files with the name slightly different.

Anyway, thanks for the GREAT software. I'm a proud Limewire Pro user ;-)

afisk August 2nd, 2002 07:28 PM

Interesting. Thanks for the report. I'll forward this on to Chris and Sumeet who are the true caretakers of the downloading code, as this does sound suspicious.

Have you noticed any pattern as to when this issue occurs? Does it seem to do this every time in the scenario you described?

Glad you like using the product, and thanks again for letting us know about this issue.

aeroe August 2nd, 2002 11:26 PM

i still need to manually type in "6" for the connections. it Always defaults to 3 ultrapeers. been like for ages for me, except when i used aqualime. too bad that project is dead now.

somewhat annoying....

efield August 3rd, 2002 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joakim Agren
http://www3.limewire.com/download
Thats the directory where all the older versions and the newest versions where downloable but now when you visit it you get an URL error 404 not found.

You need the trailing slash for it to work. So <http://www3.limewire.com/download/> brings up the list.

Unregistered August 4th, 2002 09:03 PM

2.5.5 Pro Not using Mult Hosts
 
I just bought and installed 2.5.5 Pro and after downloading a couple things (and still downloading), I notice now that the software is not downloading from more than 1 host like the free versions did. I have the bandwidth and when you're downloading a big file and only getting 7kbps, it's kinda annoying. Especially when you see there are several valid hosts I could also be downloading from to speed things up. I may have to go back to the free version, but don't want to since I paid for this one, thinking it would be better.

I even tried changing my speed to a higher setting to no avail. I even canceled the xfer of one of the files and picked another in the list, which was also started downloading, so I knew I had more than 1 host to d/l from.

Is this planned to be fixed? Or is there a setting I am missing?

Thanks

ErikB5 August 5th, 2002 01:49 PM

"uploading" switching to "xfer interupted" and back... client or server issue?
 
I'm seeing another thing in the 2.5.5 Pro Beta that I have not seen before. At the present time I do not know if it's a 2.5.5 issue or an issue from the remote party client software.

I get a connection from a remote machine to retrieve a file, and all I see in the Monitor tab, is a "uploading" switching to "transfer interupted" and back again, non-stop. Is there a way for the 2.5.5 Beta program to display the client version of the remote machine and/or log for debug purposes only the transfer headers ?

I understand that logging facility in Limewire is not something that people want, but it might help for the Beta programs.

To stop this cycle behaviour, as I surmises it eats network resources to handle the connection process, I simply banned the host in the Filter menu. the text in the filter menu states "You can disallow messages from specific hosts..." Does this mean just stop Chat/messages or upload/messages ? The wording isn't to clear to me.

JohnReam August 5th, 2002 02:24 PM

Lost Props (again) updating to 2.5.5
 
I lost all settings/filters/options/etc going from 2.5.4 to 2.5.5.
Even basic stuff, like enabling the Connections Tab, which was reset to not visible.

I'm using Windows.
Maybe it has to do with my note using the Default Paths, which always want to install to C:\Program Files\LimeWire. I've always used D:\Program Files\Limewire





Quote:

Originally posted by afisk
That's not good, considering that the new Windows installer is designed not to blow away your old props file. You're on Windows, right? The versions before this would simply place a bland limewire.props in the new install directory, but the newer windows installers are designed to detect where your previous limewire.props was stored and copy it over to your new directory. This does not happen for you, though? This has only been in the code for 2.5.x versions -- so it will only pick up limewire.props files from previous 2.5.x installs.

Thanks.


Freiluft August 6th, 2002 06:41 PM

If preferences are stored in .props, is it possible on the Mac simply to move that file out of LW's folder and then replace the empty one on the new version? I get tired of gathering and entering the info., and there is no easy way to copy the lists (though I admit it is rather amusing typing all those four-letter words all in a row, and of course, there's always Mr. !_! to greet each new LW version).

mdouma46 August 7th, 2002 06:41 AM

"Bug"? report
 
First of all, keep up the great work guys.

I encountered this odd behavior (which does sound familiar though) in Win Me:
I clicked on a (very large) file to download, and it started to in the download cue window. Almost as soon as it did though, its status changed to "Could not move to Library". It also shows that the file is 100% downloaded (which it obviously isn't). I don't think I had tried to download that particular file before.

Anyway....

Joakim Agren August 7th, 2002 07:33 AM

Re: "Bug"? report
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mdouma46
First of all, keep up the great work guys.

I encountered this odd behavior (which does sound familiar though) in Win Me:
I clicked on a (very large) file to download, and it started to in the download cue window. Almost as soon as it did though, its status changed to "Could not move to Library". It also shows that the file is 100% downloaded (which it obviously isn't). I don't think I had tried to download that particular file before.

Anyway....

Hello!

This is not a bug that are just present in the new 2.5.5 beta it has always existed.I have encountered it a couple of times and the problem seems to be related to files which has directory paths/Slashes/ in their filenames.

LW and/or Java seems to have problems with those files.

I am using a Mac with the Macintosh version of LimeWire so it seems to be related to all platforms.

irregularjoe August 8th, 2002 04:46 PM

the link to older versions that is in Joakim's post still doesn't work. error 404. Anyone know where to get an older version of LW? 2.5.5 doesn't work for me. Thanks.

Rhohl August 9th, 2002 05:54 AM

older LW versions
 
Quote:

Originally posted by irregularjoe
the link to older versions that is in Joakim's post still doesn't work. error 404. Anyone know where to get an older version of LW? 2.5.5 doesn't work for me. Thanks.
irregularjoe,
Try this link for old LWs (it is working for me this AM)

http://www9.limewire.com:82/download/

Good luck

ErikB5 August 9th, 2002 10:15 AM

Bitzi & Limewire
 
As I was looking up some different information, I came to the Bitzi Bitcollider site. It seems you have implemented Bitzi in Limewire since release 2.5.2. Is this true ? and if yes, how can we see it's features/options etc... Thanks.

ErikB5 August 9th, 2002 11:03 AM

Bitzi usage.
 
I found the info on how to use Bitzi in the Changelog for 2.5.0 beta.

Bitzi metadata lookup allows you to get more information about files -- right click in the search and library tabs to try it!.

I've take some time to update some files on the Bitzi site, using their Bitcollider. I guess there aren't yet many checksums on files there, but it's a start.
I'm taking the time to Bitcollide all my shared files. Like the Monty Python's Killer Rabbit or Monty Python's Flying Circus.

Unregistered August 14th, 2002 04:35 PM

Hash file
 
Hey Adam Fisk, is there any particular reason the fileurns.cache file is stored in the limewire program directory (on Linux) instead of in ~/.limwire/ like the limewire.props file? I think they should both go in ~/.limewire/

Unregistered August 17th, 2002 12:10 PM

I have registered Limewire Pro. When I download either the release version or the BETA. I get an error relating to the compression format from Stuffit. Any ideas?

rutro September 3rd, 2002 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by afisk
On the update issue, we definitely don't turn on the update for any betas. In fact, we often leave the update off even for official releases. This is because we release so often, that we only update people to really stable releases and to releases with really nice new features. Otherwise, the update messages would just get annoying.

This is going live momentarily

Adam,
I'm presently on PRO version 2.5.4

I don't think the update msgs would be annoying!!! ;)
I personally wouldn't mind being notified of each new release... I could then decide if it is worth it to upgrade or not!
Since the update is not turned on for official releases, what is the easiest way I can know the most recent version??

Any idea when PRO 2.5.5 is going live?
Thanks

Tom2 September 5th, 2002 12:27 AM

LW 2.5.5
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rutro
Any idea when PRO 2.5.5 is going live?
Thanks

LW 2.5.5 Pro has been out for a month or so. Check your download page, rutro. It's better than 2.5.4 and earlier, but it still needs a lot of bugs fixed.


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