Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Current Gnutella Client Forums > LimeWire+WireShare (Cross-platform) > LimeWire Beta Archives
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Today's Posts


Welcome To Gnutella Forums

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, fun aspects such as the image caption contest and play in the arcade, and access many other special features after your registration and email confirmation. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! (click here) (Note: we use Yandex mail server so make sure yandex is not on your email filter or blocklist.) Confirmation emails might be found in your Junk folder, especially for Yahoo or GMail.

If you have any problems with the Gnutella Forum registration process or your Gnutella Forum account login, please contact us (this is not for program use questions.) Your email address must be legitimate and verified before becoming a full member of the forums. Please be sure to disable any spam filters you may have for our website, so that email messages can reach you.
Note: Any other issue with registration, etc., send a Personal Message (PM) to one of the active Administrators: Lord of the Rings or Birdy.

Once registered but before posting, members MUST READ the FORUM RULES (click here) and members should include System details - help us to help you (click on blue link) in their posts if their problem relates to using the program. Whilst forum helpers are happy to help where they can, without these system details your post might be ignored. And wise to read How to create a New Thread

Thank you

If you are a Spammer click here.
This is not a business advertising forum, all member profiles with business advertising will be banned, all their posts removed. Spamming is illegal in many countries of the world. Guests and search engines cannot view member profiles.



           Deutsch?              Español?                  Français?                   Nederlands?
   Hilfe in Deutsch,   Ayuda en español,   Aide en français et LimeWire en françaisHulp in het Nederlands

Forum Rules

Support Forums

Before you post to one of the specific Client Help and Support Conferences in Gnutella Client Forums please look through other threads and Stickies that may answer your questions. Most problems are not new. The Search function is most useful. Also the red Stickies have answers to the most commonly asked questions. (over 90 percent).
If your problem is not resolved by a search of the forums, please take the next step and post in the appropriate forum. There are many members who will be glad to help.
If you are new to the world of file sharing please do not be shy! Everyone was ‘new’ when they first started.

When posting, please include details for:
Your Operating System ....... Your version of your Gnutella Client (* this is important for helping solve problems) ....... Your Internet connection (56K, Cable, DSL) ....... The exact error message, if one pops up
Any other relevant information that you think may help ....... Try to make your post descriptive, specific, and clear so members can quickly and efficiently help you. To aid helpers in solving download/upload problems, LimeWire and Frostwire users must specify whether they are downloading a torrent file or a file from the Gnutella network.
Members need to supply these details >>> System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)


Moderators

There are senior members on the forums who serve as Moderators. These volunteers keep the board organized and moving.
Moderators are authorized to: (in order of increasing severity)
Move posts to the correct forums. Many times, members post in the wrong forum. These off-topic posts may impede the normal operation of the forum.
Edit posts. Moderators will edit posts that are offensive or break any of the House Rules.
Delete posts. Posts that cannot be edited to comply with the House Rules will be deleted.
Restrict members. This is one of the last punishments before a member is banned. Restrictions may include placing all new posts in a moderation queue or temporarily banning the offender.
Ban members. The most severe punishment. Three or more moderators or administrators must agree to the ban for this action to occur. Banning is reserved for very severe offenses and members who, after many warnings, fail to comply with the House Rules. Banning is permanent. Bans cannot be removed by the moderators and probably won't be removed by the administration.


The Rules

1. Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form. Topics discussing techniques for violating these laws and messages containing locations of web sites or other servers hosting illegal content will be silently removed. Multiple offenses will result in consequences. File names are not required to discuss your issues. If filenames are copyright then do not belong on these forums & will be edited out or post removed. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

2. Spamming and excessive advertising will not be tolerated. Commercial advertising is not allowed in any form, including using in signatures.

3. There will be no excessive use of profanity in any forum.

4. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults, or any other personal attacks.

5. Pictures may be attached to posts and signatures if they are not sexually explicit or offensive. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

6. Remember to post in the correct forum. Take your time to look at other threads and see where your post will go. If your post is placed in the wrong forum it will be moved by a moderator. There are specific Gnutella Client sections for LimeWire, Phex, FrostWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Morpheus, and many more. Please choose the correct section for your problem.

7. If you see a post in the wrong forum or in violation of the House Rules, please contact a moderator via Private Message or the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of every post. Please do not respond directly to the member - a moderator will do what is required.

8. Any impersonation of a forum member in any mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result in banning.

9. Multiple copies of the same post will not be tolerated. Post your question, comment, or complaint only once. There is no need to express yourself more than once. Duplicate posts will be deleted with little or no warning. Keep in mind a forum censor may temporarily automatically hold up your post, if you do not see your post, do not post again, it will be dealt with by a moderator within a reasonable time. Authors of multiple copies of same post may be dealt with by moderators within their discrete judgment at the time which may result in warning or infraction points, depending on severity as adjudged by the moderators online.

10. Posts should have descriptive topics. Vague titles such as "Help!", "Why?", and the like may not get enough attention to the contents.

11. Do not divulge anyone's personal information in the forum, not even your own. This includes e-mail addresses, IP addresses, age, house address, and any other distinguishing information. Don´t use eMail addresses in your nick. Reiterating, do not post your email address in posts. This is for your own protection.

12. Signatures may be used as long as they are not offensive or sexually explicit or used for commercial advertising. Commercial weblinks cannot be used under any circumstances and will result in an immediate ban.

13. Dual accounts are not allowed. Cannot explain this more simply. Attempts to set up dual accounts will most likely result in a banning of all forum accounts.

14. Video links may only be posted after you have a tally of two forum posts. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam.

15. Failure to show that you have read the forum rules may result in forum rules breach infraction points or warnings awarded against you which may later total up to an automatic temporary or permanent ban. Supplying system details is a prerequisite in most cases, particularly with connection or installation issues.

Violation of any of these rules will bring consequences, determined on a case-by-case basis.


Thank You! Thanks for taking the time to read these forum guidelines. We hope your visit is helpful and mutually beneficial to the entire community.


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11 (permalink)  
Old January 22nd, 2003
Apprentice
 
Join Date: January 20th, 2003
Posts: 7
lwrules is flying high
Default

whatever dude, I get more results with 12 hosts opposed to 3, so ..
  #12 (permalink)  
Old January 24th, 2003
Cougar
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lightbulb Wish for Feature to Modify Connection #

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. But I wish we could have a feature, or way to hack the config files to allow us to make not 12 connections, not 20 but 100.

When I used to use older versions of limewire with 100 connections (even before ultrapeer) I successfully connected to 1000 to 1500 TeraBytes. Now days with the limit of 12, I am lucky to get 1-2 TeraBytes of available Data/Files in my statistics window.

Its a lot harder to find anything now. (I use 45Meg DS3 so modem and T1 users cannot get the number of connections I just wrote about above.)

Does any one know if there any chance we can edit something to try out larger connection amounts than the 12 limit? (I personally have found that my CPU MAXes long before my Internet connection does, so I know I can use higher connection numbers.)
  #13 (permalink)  
Old January 24th, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

Quote:
Does any one know if there any chance we can edit something to try out larger connection amounts than the 12 limit?
Yes. There is someone who knows and there is also a chance to edit something to try out larger connection amounts.

If every user had 100 ultrapeer connections or if every user had 3 ultrapeer connections would not change the individual search horizon (in theory at least, in the real world the network would collapse in a second). Now if most people have 3 connections and some have 100 connections those with many connections would have a much bigger search horizon reducing the search horizon of all others. - That's why I as a responsible person, am not going to tell how to do it.

However, I will give you a hint, - the answer is in the source code (only some 140.000 lines of code - to discourage you as much as possible).

Last edited by trap_jaw; January 24th, 2003 at 08:37 AM.
  #14 (permalink)  
Old January 24th, 2003
Apprentice
 
Join Date: January 20th, 2003
Posts: 7
lwrules is flying high
Default

more than 12 hosts is a simple modification to a java file, I already did it, but its for a really ancient version of limewire (6/2002), if someone can point me to the latest source code (the latest zip on www.limewire.org is from 6/2002 I'd be more than happy to make the hack and release it.
  #15 (permalink)  
Old January 25th, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

There are no zips any more.

By the way, the next version introduces GUESS. GUESS is a search architecture that doesn't broadcast your queries via tcp anymore but searches (via udp one ultrapeer at a time) for up to 200 results and then stops the querying.

More tcp connections won't help either.

Last edited by trap_jaw; January 25th, 2003 at 12:45 AM.
  #16 (permalink)  
Old January 25th, 2003
Apprentice
 
Join Date: January 20th, 2003
Posts: 7
lwrules is flying high
Default

I think I'll stick with the non-guess version, only 200 results sounds kinda lame..
  #17 (permalink)  
Old February 2nd, 2003
MamiyaOtaru's Avatar
Code Mangler
 
Join Date: March 25th, 2002
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 143
MamiyaOtaru is flying high
Default

only 200? ffs. The idea behind GUESS as I understand it is that it searches until it has some results for you. A rare file will be searched for longer and over a wider area, until you get results. This will be possible because very common files are limited to 200 results, saving bandwidth that can be used to search farther for rare files.

This means you have a much better chance of finding a rare song, and when you search for a common song you are limited to 200 results. How many do you need?

It may require a slight change in your searching patterns. Instead of searching for "Beethoven" you would search for "Beethoven - für Elise" This way, instead of 3000 results for all things beethoven, you get 200 for the song you wanted, which should be plenty.

I would suggest you upgrade when GUESS comes out. Unless you only like totally mainstream stuff and want 3000 results for a britney spears search. GUESS will help you find specific files much easier, and will help the network overall.

You have to edit more than one file to have more connections, but having 100 ultrapeer connections would be lame. It might help you, but would not be nice for the network. With enough people doing that it would really gum things up.
  #18 (permalink)  
Old February 2nd, 2003
Distinguished Member
 
Join Date: September 21st, 2002
Location: Aachen
Posts: 733
trap_jaw is flying high
Default

Okay, here is the latest from LimeWire development versions: The number of results when GUESSing has been set to 250 actually not 200 as I said before. However GUESS is complete yet and it might be changed.

The number of results next-gen ultrapeers return when being queried has been set to 150 at the moment. The number of ultrapeer connections for leafs will be set to 2 by default.

The number of leafs for ultrapeers has been reduced to 40, the number of ultrapeer connections for ultrapeers have been increased to 47.
  #19 (permalink)  
Old February 4th, 2003
MamiyaOtaru's Avatar
Code Mangler
 
Join Date: March 25th, 2002
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 143
MamiyaOtaru is flying high
Default

I've been seeing that. Been going through the new code. Interesting that ultrapeers connect to more ultrapeers than leaves. I am bettting there are far more leaves, it seems like this would make it harder for them to connect..

Though if each leaf connects to fewer ultrapeers, it might balance out. bleh. Seems a bit shoddy though. When you first start, if you are a leaf, it limits you to 2 connections. Once you have two connections though, you can set it to something higher (as long as i's not higher than the max # of connections for your speed. Speaking of that, what good is max # of connections for your speed for anyway?)

There is nothing stopping you from setting it to a higher number once LW has started..
  #20 (permalink)  
Old February 4th, 2003
Software Developer
 
Join Date: November 4th, 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 1,366
sberlin is flying high
Default

the reason for the more ultrapeer<-->ultrapeer connections and the less leaf<-->ultrapeer connections are because of the amount of traffic and flow-control algorithms of various gnutella clients...

if a leaf has many ultrapeers and sends a message (that lasts for 7 hops) to those ultrapeers, who then forward it to a few ultrapeers and their many leaves, who then forward it to a few more ultrapeers and their many leaves, (repeat 4 moretimes), chances are that sometime along the way, a client is going to 'drop' this message because its handling too much traffic. therefore, it actually lowers the amount of hits you're going to get for that file.

if a leaf has a few ultrapeers connections and sends a message (which now lasts for 4 hops) to those ultrapeers, who then forwards it to many many ultrapeers and their few leaves, who then forwards it to many many ultrapeers and their few leaves (repeat 1 more time), there is a much lower chance that a client is going to lose the message among the traffic.

this also opens the door for allowing one to 'probe' for queries, by first sending a short-lived message and letting it go to the much larger range and seeing if results come back -- if none, or not many, do, then it sends a longer-lived message, reaching further out into the network.

and to help reduce the traffic even further, QRT messages(essentially filters) are forwarded between ultrapeers now (although only checked on the last hop) instead of just from leaves to ultrapeers, ensuring that ultrapeers won't needlessly send message to the many other ultrapeers.

basically, it's a good thing the way it is.
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mac Os X issues with limewire svtpunkhed General Mac OSX Support 0 June 16th, 2006 11:31 AM
cvs.limewire.org issues heavy_baby Open Discussion topics 5 December 31st, 2005 08:40 AM
Limewire Issues, Please HELP gmay Download/Upload Problems 15 September 6th, 2005 11:00 PM
.....::::LimeWire Issues::::..... Mitz General Windows Support 8 May 29th, 2005 04:01 AM
Limewire 2.7 Pro issues Norm LimeWire Beta Archives 0 October 20th, 2002 03:44 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.