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Old January 7th, 2006
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The junk filter is a learning filter. As you add more files of the same nature/characteristics, (eg: files of 765 KB in size) then the filter gradually learns to filter those out. Certainly the common harmless spam like the autogenerated spam results, & also autogenerated mp3 spam results are very easy to filter out. It only took me 2 searches to totally eradicate those from search results by searching for terms that would deliberately promote those type of results. However virii files are much more difficult to filter out. It takes much much longer. Other virii sizes to filter out are 399 KB, 851 KB, 60.5 KB. You may want to check your filtered results however to make sure you don't filter out the wrong items by mistake. I guess it also depends upon the intensity of the filter you set it to under Tools>Options>Filters>Junk
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all this info is interesting but one question...
why the hell are people storing virus files on their pc's
takes some sick people that want to infect everyone.
as for filtering, i filtered out the file size 851.7KB but it still comes through when searching! and i tried different variations on the filter 851.75KB 851.7 KB etc but it still appears! why is this?
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Normal users do not store viruses on their computers those are generated by the fake hosts beware of them. and filters cant block by file sizes.
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Allot of the people that are sharing the virus do not know they even have it. They are just naive to what they are doing. Just look through this forum people come here all of the time saying LimeWire wont shut down whats wrong.

Or they come here saying why are there so many files 851.7kb in size. I downloaded it and opened it but it didn't work. These people do not even realize that once they have opened it they have infected themselves and are sharing literally 100s of these files on the net since this Virus replicates itself.

Generally it probably on takes a few days for these people to realize they have a virus but in that few days they can have virtually thousands of copies of this file. Now I am not sure but I think this file has the ability to read the names of files and rename itself when it recreates itself.

Well I think you can figure out the rest of it and but just in case you cant if a person downloads 1 = 1000s of files shared that is basically the reason there are so many of them.

And by the way if I was a person that wanted to destroy a P2P net I think that this might be a good way to start down that path. Hell I have to do is release 1 file into the wild and watch it grow.
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ok now i'm confused!!!!
Sphinx you said (Quote) filters cant block by file sizes.

but below Lord of the Rings says
(Quote) Other virii sizes to filter out are 399 KB, 851 KB, 60.5 KB.

so what does the filter block 'words' 'names'? or can it block file sizes?
if it's just names then how can you block something for eg. song title! if that's what your looking for??
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From what I understand the new smart filter uses name and file size association to learn thus the reason for training over time it will associate a file of a certain size as a virus. It will also determine that a certain name is a virus. But if you mark a file that is marked as junk due to name association but not size it will learn over time that a file by that name is not necessarily junk but a file of a certain size and name is.
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Default Junk Filter again

I'm sorry, but I still can't filter out the mp3 spam (134.4 kb ), ie after marking them, at research they displayed with trash can and junk 100 %, despite the "Don't Display Junk" and Strict sensitivity option settings.
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Same problem here as hopalong's. I often look for obscure music that will only come up once in a while. I get the flagged (trashcan) results constantly. There have been several updates since this filter's 'do not display junk' option was added, and it still won't hide the junk files. Doesn't make any sense.
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i'm having the same problem as above, i know that the whole filter learning proccess takes time, but just a pain...as it puts other files as junk (which is not), so you spend alot of time unmarking as junk...so if the filter did work i.e. not show junk...then alot of files we are searching for would not appear! as it would block them...does this make sense?
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Yes it makes sense that is why there is the show junk in place and show junk at bottom option. Because until you get it trained you need to watch it.
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