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Unregistered July 25th, 2002 08:39 AM

Why block Morpheus, there are other ways to find a smarter solutions for this problems. The problem is in how Gnucleus decides to become an Ultrapeer, I'll add a message I posted in another forum:

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There is still a problem in the way Morpheus decides to become an Ultrapeer. I think if most clients send the header X-Ultrapeer-needed: false (something like that) to Morpheus, then it will understand it, and would not become an Ultrapeer. Thus reducing the amount of Morpheus UPs.

Morpheus Ultrapeers might also be confused of getting a lot of disconnections and reconnections, because many people are disconecting from them, that might turn them to think that there's actually a need for more ultrapeers.

In this text, when I talk about Morpehus is about the program it self, not it's users.
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I was reading the latest Gnucleus source, and the problem seems to be more on the number of leaf that it can have. Because it's deafult is to 400, then it will think it is more powerful than most of the other Ultrapeers. So a better way to get Morpheus ultrapeers to downgrade is if most clients can send Morpheus a header that the other client can host more than 300 leafs, so that morpheus thinks it is less powerful.
So a better solution would be to help reduce the amount of Morpheus Ultrapeer than blocking them.

dague12

Unregistered August 9th, 2002 12:48 AM

Hey, I got an idea. Let's make this a toggleable choice. I really don't want to wait for people to figure this out because working it out with morpheus will take a long time and a heck of a lot of troubleshooting. Let's just give users the choice to only connect to limewire clients if they want and let that be that. When morpheus and limewire finally come to terms (in a software sense), then the feature can be removed. This is just going to drive everyone nuts and ruin the system until someone finds a quick fix now.

Also remember that quick fixes don't have to be permanent.

Unregistered August 14th, 2002 04:56 PM

Fighting fire with fire...
 
Am I the only person that sees that phrase as being completely ridiculous? After all, if one does fight fire with fire, you get a bigger fire...causing more problems.

Still, it seems to be the most popular suggestion on here..."block Morpheus clients" is the popular suggestion, and admittedly, the most convenient solution.

Gnutella is a network that was created on the idea of sharing without limitation...if LimeWire (which I think everyone will agree seems to be the most efficient and well programmed client for the network currently) starts blocking Morpheus, what's next? I get BearShare clients sometimes as well...block them? Anyway, you see where it's heading. I've got a slightly different idea...

Howzabout the developers for LimeWire and the developers for Morpheus try to come to some agreement? After all, they really are the two super-powers in the world of Gnutella.

I have a slightly different reason for suggesting this...I run primarily on a Macintosh platform. If I start looking for Macintosh files when there are only Morpheus (an up until now Windows exclusive program...another thing they could learn from the folks at LW) servers up, how many Macintosh files do you think there are going to be listed? ZERO! Goose egg! Because Windows users think that Macintosh users (this is a really broad generalization, I know, but when 99% of encounters support the theory, you begin to accept it as fact) are totally retarded and useless. But we make stuff pretty (Mac users are predominantly artists).

Now, if Morpheus opened itself up to the Mac platform...that might change things. However, I have a feeling that unless someone attepmts to persuade them to do so, they won't even know that there's this whole other platform out there being used by a good 297 million users that, at present, aren't earning them any money.

Of course, that's one solution, and an extreme one at that. Here's another...does anyone think that the people at Morpheus might be persuaded to change their policies for their clients? Say, to enable the freeloader policy? Again, Gnutella is intended for sharing, not taking. In that sense, freeloaders SHOULD be prevented from accessing other users' files.

Professional collaberation and courtesy...and perhaps it's a dumb idea.


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