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Old January 11th, 2005
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obviously you have forgotten where the english language derives from, and no it isn't america, so it would be nice if you place the UK flag under English on your homepage. not the american flag.
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Obviously you seem to have forgotten where good style derives from, and no, it isn't the dictionary of smaller insults.

Might you consider remodulating your english to a finer tone, else our slander-filters will overlay your ramblings with static.
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I was told that English had several variants, and there's today a clear distinction between American English and British English.

If you think that some translations should be specialized to British English, it is possible in Limewire, by adding only the necessary modified resources into the Messages Bundle with the "en_GB" code.

For now, no one has demonstrated that such specialization was needed, and so Limewire uses the language where it is mostly developped: American English.

This is clear on the translate page that indicates "English (US)" and not just "English".

So instead of making such unjustified critics, feel free to provide the necessary changes for a British specialization. For now Limewire uses a "pan-English" resource file as the default, but already uses the various locale specializations for each English-spoken area supported by Java: it is already true for the format of dates (we currently don't use the localization of currency amounts)

We are open to suggestions if you feel we need it...
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Can we have a translation for Tasmanian english or Pidgin english? Or new wave ...or rap lol
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I was told that English had several variants, and there's today a clear distinction between American English and British English.

If you think that some translations should be specialized to British English, it is possible in Limewire, by adding only the necessary modified resources into the Messages Bundle with the "en_GB" code.

For now, no one has demonstrated that such specialization was needed, and so Limewire uses the language where it is mostly developped: American English.

This is clear on the translate page that indicates "English (US)" and not just "English".

So instead of making such unjustified critics, feel free to provide the necessary changes for a British specialization. For now Limewire uses a "pan-English" resource file as the default, but already uses the various locale specializations for each English-spoken area supported by Java: it is already true for the format of dates (we currently don't use the localization of currency amounts)

We are open to suggestions if you feel we need it...
The differences between the variants in the languages are minor and easily found if you bothered to do a simple google search. But I'm not asking for an UK English translation as us Brits are not a stupid bunch - we can work out that 'Center' = 'Center' and 'Color' = 'Colour'. If we really felt the need to segregate ourselves from your perversion of our language then we would have asked for a 'g33k' and 'txt spk' translation too

All us Brits want is a little recognition for the use of OUR language and as i can see from the links you have posted, in the thread i started, that I'm certainly not the first person to have been angered by this.
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Well there are a few occurences in LimeWire resources where the british orthographu could be used: "colour" instead of "color" is an example.
However, I was told that "center" should be kept in British English when it means "middle" or is a verb (conjugated : "centers", "centered", not: "centres", "centred"), whilst "centre(s)" being used exclusively for names of buildings, places in a city, organisations or institutions.

For the historic origin of the English language,it is certainly in Britain, but it was born from a melting pot of other languages, including Latin, Normand, Celtic, Old French, Saxon, and Scandinavian Nordic languages. US English continues that evolution with additional european origins (with a raising influence of American Spanish) and with historic African languages in the Afroamerican community, and more simplifications necessary for mutual understanding of people with various origins (and today with words borrowed worldwide, including East-Asia).

In UK, evolutions include more words from an important South-Asian community, and Celtic languages in Ireland and Scotland.

French also borrowed lot of words from Italian, Russian, German, and Arabic (and today from English), but also historically from regional oil and oc dialects (including Normand in the North of France and Occitan in the South). In Canada, some historical French terms and expressions are kept more frequently (and this is a marvelous source of the French vocabulary because mny ofthesewords are beautiful), but some local usage favor English terms that are not used in France. The influence is reciprocal, and in fact the regionalisms are shading out, with the exception of spoken accents between America and Europe (but a mostly common orthography and syntax).

The same is true with English whose unification is much more visible today than it was only 50 years ago (regionalisms were very present even in UK only, with very distinctive accents).
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One of the funny things about the UK is different parts speak differently, even in London different areas of the place speak english differently. lol (not only due to basic demographics.) Where I am, in most cases schools allowed both UK & US spellings of words. Personally I'm a greater supporter of the UK english. It has more style. It's almost as though the original US language users developed their spelling of words due to lack of ability to spell correctly. I guess that's what Verdyp is saying, making it more simplified for mutual understanding of people with various origins.

The english (& many other) language(s) is dynamic. I read a book written by my grandfather & the english use is considerably different & spelling included. The further you go back in time, the more the language changes are evident. And changes are still happening. (It's been too many years since I studied the origins of english language at university.)

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Indeed. Both of you raise good points and are right to say that every language in some ways is influenced by another language or culture and true this is more evident in English than in most other languages. In fact its quite fascinating to trace back the roots of some of our spellings and sayings.
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Last time I checked, the English language developed in England. The UK is a group of several countries, most of which had or have a different language to english before they were "conquered", similar in the way which the US got English as its language.

So if the "Whinging Pom" wants to get padantic, you need the English flag, not the UK flag. (The english flag from memory is a red cross on a white background, the UK flag is the british flag which is the Union jack - but I could be wrong, coz I dont care enough to check!)
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... padantic... but I could be wrong, coz I dont care enough to check!)
I'm not sure why you posted here. I don't quite think it belongs since you have nothing constructive to add. Another one who can't even spell correctly. See if you can find padantic in even the US english dictionary. Or is this a new way of spelling for the us version of the word. For those who can't even pronounce the english alphabet correctly. Such as zeeee instead of zed. This is going nowhere with the last posting. In our country, feral animals don't have rabies, in fact rabies doesn't exist here at all. Don't forget to wipe the saliva pouring out of your mouth & nose, & your sweaty paws. China for many centuries thought of themselves as the centre of the world or universe. Some people in the US think of themselves the same way.

Personally I am very anti-corruption of local cultures & languages. Such as the damage spanish did in South America by destroying cultures or using genocide backed up years later by so called US missionaries who also did major damage to cultures all over the world. Or the settlers in US using genocide against the local indian cultures. Or about the US wanting to take over the world with their culture & language. Too many examples of such types of corruption to quote ... getting totally off topic.

This topic is about respect for the english language & the oxford spellings which I have great respect for. Not for the uneducated & their informal use & misgivings about the english language.

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