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Trip LD July 23rd, 2005 05:08 AM

File Size Filter
 
Is it possible to create a filter for LimeWire that will block certain file sizes?..I see you can block the host..But, It would be much more effective to just block the Virus files they share!..Based on the Theory, many of these fools are sharing them without knowing!..I really have no need to see hundreds of virus files everytime I do a search...Please, lets find a way to block there file size so good files can shine through. Good files with the same file size as a virus, Im sure are none or very few..

et voilą July 23rd, 2005 06:29 AM

There is already a spam filter similar to ones in email clients that is written for LW, it will be one of the main features of LW 5.2, so you'll be able to test it in 5.1 betas. (4.9, 5.1, 5.3 are betas, 5.0, 5.2, 5.4 are releases).


Ciao

Trip LD July 25th, 2005 08:25 PM

Thank you very much..I know you fine folks put your asses on the line for us all.. And I for one Appreciate it.

deacon72 July 31st, 2005 10:28 AM

What!!:eek: More BETA's:eek: Where are my aspirin:eek:

Glad to see the work progress. Shows me where my money goes when I get the PRO versions. Workth every damn dime too.:)

Grandpa July 31st, 2005 03:36 PM

In my pocket deakon and you cant have any

Thanks for adding the spam filter can't wait for the beta I love Headaches. HeHe

Lord of the Rings August 1st, 2005 01:48 AM

I think more than just a spam filter an actual size filter would make obtaining/finding what you're looking for much easier, well in theory anyway. That's why I requested it here Xtra search option It could also benefit re: spamming. (I'd like to hope one day one of my requests will be adopted in practice. lol :D)

Guesty McGuesterton August 16th, 2005 12:15 PM

Yeah, I know it's probably not the 'done thing' to bring back threads that have fallen off the front page, but I figure it's either that or make an entirely new thread and risk getting flamed for not making use of the existing topics.

So, consider this another official request for a filesize filter - starting sometime last week, (for me at least) the video search returns nothing but spam results. The search ends before it finds any genuine files, effectively turning the video search function into a big advertisement for whatever the hell they're trying to con people with this time. It's probably more I-Pod bullshit, since that seems to be the flavor of the month right now.

I realize I've said pretty much all of this in another thread, but I thought that also saying it here might get it noticed by the developers a bit more easily. If there's one section of the boards they're more likely to look at than any other, it's this one. At least that's the theory.

A basic 'show files of X megabytes and above' kind of filter would be a good start, and would effectively eliminate all but the most determined of spammers. By determined, I mean those quicktime files that come from multiple T1 sources, are all named differently, and are all just over 8 megabytes in size. I have no idea what they advertise when you play them, since I've never downloaded one.

At this rate, new users will download LimeWire, get hit with several hundred spam results, and then promptly uninstall it - not a good way to encourage people to buy the Pro version, since the only apparent difference between that and the free version is that it finds the spam faster. =/

I really hope a size filter can be introduced soon, since LimeWire is the best P2P program I've ever used - and I've used a LOT of P2P programs over the years. It'd be a shame to see it disappear because of some ****tards trying to make money on the single worst gadget in existence.

Only A Hobo August 16th, 2005 01:44 PM

now now... I take exception.. iPod is a brilliant machine, and I dearly love mine.

As to the rest of your post .... The spammers are getting quite clever and I fear the developers are not keeping up with them. If I was a developer I would say shut up we are doing everything possible. But I'm not.............................

ultracross August 16th, 2005 04:49 PM

a new spam filter will be a feature of the 5.0 release..

Guesty McGuesterton August 17th, 2005 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Only A Hobo
now now... I take exception.. iPod is a brilliant machine, and I dearly love mine.

As to the rest of your post .... The spammers are getting quite clever and I fear the developers are not keeping up with them. If I was a developer I would say shut up we are doing everything possible. But I'm not.............................

No, the developers aren't doing everything they can - filesize filters aren't the hardest things in the world to incorporate into a program, (according to someone I asked who does a fair bit of programming) and doing so would eliminate the spam problem virtually overnight. Unless the spammers are clever enough to spoof the size of a file, there wouldn't be any way to get their crap past the filter without uploading very large files in place of the ones they currently send. Not very a cost-effective money making scheme.

As for iPods, I have numerous reasons for hating them. They're cheaply made, they break if you so much as look at them the wrong way, they're ludicrously overpriced, and all the ones I've heard skip all over the place if you move with any kind of speed.

Since they're basically glorified portable hard drives, there's also mechanical failure, (Google for common hard drive failures, and you'll see what can go wrong with a hard drive if you don't already know) decreased battery life due to powering the motor, and the risk of data loss and physical damage to the platters if the read heads make contact with them.

Then there's the fact that I really don't like sticking those bright white headphones in my ears and instantly becoming a mobile advertisement for Apple. If they want to advertise, they can do more TV ads.

I have a flash MP3 player that doubles as a pendrive - a 1 gigabyte capacity, 24 hour (continuous) average battery life at high volume, no moving parts other than a couple of buttons, easily concealed pretty much anywhere, and it plays all of my tracks beautifully. And I didn't have to hack the living crap out of the firmware to make it play tracks I've ripped from my own CD collection, unlike the iPods I've seen.

But my biggest reason for hating them is that I can't open my email or browse a website without getting some kind of iPod spam shoved in my face. The internet is so completely saturated with the damn things that numerous otherwise normal sites have recently posted 'news' articles that typically began with a statement like "Now I don't normally get involved with these free iPod schemes, but...." and ending with something like "So just go to this site, fill out the questionnaire, sign up for their newsletter, and help me get a free iPod!" Yay for the 21st century equivalent of the pyramid scheme. =/

I'm sick of hearing people talk about them as though music has never been portable before, too - I've been able to walk down the street listening to music for most of my life. The only real 'new' thing that was introduced by portable digital music is the amount of tracks that can be carried at one time.

If you like your iPod, all I can say is that I'm glad for you. Of the two people I know offline and three online who have iPods, they've all had to take them in for repairs more than once. It's good to know that they turn out a decent until every now and again. However, I don't like iPods at all - they are, in my opinion, the worst kind of disposable designer junk, and the sooner we see the back of them the better off we'll all be. The current problem with LimeWire is evidence enough to back up that statement.

And one last thing: Only A Hobo, this wasn't a personal attack on you, this is just how I feel about iPods. I'm honestly glad you haven't been screwed over by Apple's sub-standard manufacturing practices, and I know that everyone has their preferences. Yours is iPod, and mine is more or less anything but. No offence intended, so I hope none was taken.

rkapsi August 17th, 2005 09:51 AM

Unless the spammers are clever enough

Oh they are clever enough! :rolleyes:

LimeWire 5.x's Spam Filter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_filtering

Guesty McGuesterton August 17th, 2005 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rkapsi
Unless the spammers are clever enough

Oh they are clever enough! :rolleyes:

LimeWire 5.x's Spam Filter:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_filtering

I was actually talking about spammers being clever enough to spoof the size of a file - the link you posted was interesting, but I'm not quite sure how it's relevant to what I was talking about when I said what was in your quote. Could you clarify it a little? If you have any information about filesize spoofing, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts, since I've never heard of anything like that being done successfully.

And since guests are no longer allowed to post, I'll take that as a hint that my comments are getting on somebody's nerves.

I'll keep this as brief as possible, and on-topic for the feature request forum.

We need a filesize filter, not a spam filter that will take who knows how long to train, and will probably end up filtering out perfectly legitimate results and some spam, whilst letting the rest of the crap get through. Just like every email spam filter I've ever used.

Only A Hobo August 17th, 2005 02:28 PM

Guesty McGuesterton said " And since guests are no longer allowed to post, I'll take that as a hint that my comments are getting on somebody's nerves."

That is strange ... you are not wrong wonder why? I'm sure it was nothing personal.

No offence over the iPod we're just a Mac mad household....

Apart from that your posts make a lot of sense to me. :D

rkapsi August 17th, 2005 03:47 PM

Could you clarify it a little? If you have any information about filesize spoofing, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts, since I've never heard of anything like that being done successfully.

The files you're seeing in the search results are not necessarily actual files. The filename, hash, size, metadata and everything else could be faked and the data is generated on the fly by a function while you're downloading it. This could be random data, nulls or something else that makes somehow sense.

*** I'm stopping at this point to tell you more ***

Keep in mind that not all spammers are interested in earning money with P2P. Certain organizations are trying to bug you until you give up P2P (search for T3 spammers and corrupt files)!

Guesty McGuesterton August 17th, 2005 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rkapsi
Could you clarify it a little? If you have any information about filesize spoofing, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts, since I've never heard of anything like that being done successfully.

The files you're seeing in the search results are not necessarily actual files. The filename, hash, size, metadata and everything else could be faked and the data is generated on the fly by a function while you're downloading it. This could be random data, nulls or something else that makes somehow sense.

*** I'm stopping at this point to tell you more ***

Keep in mind that not all spammers are interested in earning money with P2P. Certain organizations are trying to bug you until you give up P2P (search for T3 spammers and corrupt files)!

I can confirm that the hundreds of 104.8 kilobyte files are actual files, and they are actually that big - I downloaded one out of curiosity a month or so ago, scanned the hell out of it with everything I could find, then played it. It was nothing more than a few seconds of film featuring a static picture of an iPod, with some offer and the URL of some website on the iPod's screen.

As for the files that have started to appear just recently, I wouldn't know what they are - I haven't downloaded one, and I don't intend to.

I wouldn't mind so much, but I don't even download copyrighted content - just independent, copyright-free material that's freely distributable. =/ Nevertheless, I still use PeerGuardian and a lot of experience gained on other P2P networks to identify which files are fakes. I also check every file I download with a fully updated Norton AV, and run Spybot and Ad-Aware every two days. I may not be immune to malware and corrupt files, but I'm highly resistant. ;)

JorgeF November 4th, 2005 02:41 PM

I fully agree with you that this needs to be done immediately!!

There should be several options instituted:

In the preference of the program there should be an option to eliminate from the search outcome files that meet a certain size requirements.

2nd: One should have the ability to highlight several files at once and with one right click of the mouse block all the hosts that have those files.

3rd: If one result shows up but with 36 people that have it, at present we are only able to block one. We need the ability to block all.

I hope LIMEWIRE is reading this!!!

Lets put the class back into this program and give the users what they need.

This should be top priority next to security.

Everyone please voice your opinion and other features that you feel merit Limewire to change

shaba230 November 8th, 2005 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JorgeF
I fully agree with you that this needs to be done immediately!!
There should be several options instituted:
In the preference of the program there should be an option to eliminate from the search outcome files that meet a certain size requirements.
2nd: One should have the ability to highlight several files at once and with one right click of the mouse block all the hosts that have those files.
3rd: If one result shows up but with 36 people that have it, at present we are only able to block one. We need the ability to block all.
I hope LIMEWIRE is reading this!!!
Lets put the class back into this program and give the users what they need.
This should be top priority next to security.
Everyone please voice your opinion and other features that you feel merit Limewire to change


I must admit everything you wrote is good, expect in your first point you have quite a flaw. If limewire does all three, what you are saying will likely work out. BUT if you just want to add a filesize filter in general it should be done as such.

It should actually NOT be a filter. Limewire should NOT search for 500 files then only show you the ones for the filesize RANGE (yes you should be able to input a range) what it SHOULD do is ONLY search for files that are within that range so this way you will get ALL the results that are within your range instead of it just hiding all the other results that are not in your range.


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