porn site scam on gnutell [76kb video files]
 

somebody is creating 76kb video files of their ad for a porn site and renamining it for various search queries...
they're annoying, but i thought eveyone should know what those files are. site is just a porn thing.

Crikey. Like it's difficult to find porn.
I really don't understand this. You can type in a keyword of any weird fetish you have and get hundreds of hits. Why bother the people who are just looking for music? What good can it do?

their ip adress is ***[where ya download said filefrom and the porn site.
not sure who is running it.

Who runs the site
 

A ripe.net whois lookup of their IP shows:

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Re: Who runs the site
 

****
bet the address is a fake.
probaby lives in us
probably got czech site to evade us laws.

If this address is a fake or not - don´t post addresses from users or companies until you are sure they ALLOW this!!!

Morgwen

okay, but he shouldn't use gnutella to advertize his porn site by renaming the ad to what ever queries are sent with a robot either. that's what he's doing.

its really annoying now he's shortened it to 35kb from 76kb.
it's still a scam

porn is not hard to find on the web if you want it and to hard to avoid as popups, we don't need his FRAUD.

i only posted the ip address because he posted it in a short video clip claiming to be something else.

i only sought to expose what he was really up to saving others the bother of downloading the waste of bandwidth.

if he wants to advertize a porn site, he can pay for that advertizing, as is he's no better than a panhandling shoplifting street junkie.

i believe robots should either be available to all or to none. least of all to porn hustlers doing known fraud.

imho

Yes we have a lot of black sheeps out there! See how much viruses etc. exists... :(

Morgwen

Aight, I might be a bit on the "right wing" on this, but I actually think it serves well to post IP here. Of course, we can argue the pro and cons about this, but meanwhile, I don't see why someone should not be allowed to warn others about the harm which was imposed upon.
If you want to wipe the IPs, discuss first and convince us. I don't see why you should wipe them out without the users' consent. For heaven's sake, it's just an IP.

No... I it wasn´t ONLY an IP... it was the full address with email etc.!!!

Morgwen

Full address
 

The name and address of who owns any IP address is publicly available at www.arin.net, www.ripe.net or www.apnic.net just like contact information for domains are available at www.allwhois.com or any whois lookup site. I don't see any problem with posting public information to this forum.

Read the terms:

A3. Copyright information

A3.1 RIPE Database copyright
The information in the RIPE Database is available to the public for agreed Internet operation purposes, but is under copyright. The copyright statement is:

"Except for agreed Internet operational purposes, no part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, recording, or otherwise, without prior permission of the RIPE NCC on behalf of the copyright holders. Any use of this material to target advertising or similar activities is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted. The RIPE NCC requests to be notified of any such activities or suspicions thereof."

Morgwen

I was wondering what one could do to stop people from downloading pornography of a minor that was put on lime wire without their consent. Is there any way to stop something like that other than taking legal action? Who would I need to contact?

I have a friend who has been exploited on this site without her consent and is underage. It has now gone all over the country and it needs to be stopped. If necessary I and several others are prepared to file a lawsuit against whoever this involves. If a reply is posted to this, I will give further necessary information so that this video can be pulled from this and any other site it may be on. If not, legal action will be taken.

Oh, come on. Don't bring up the "copyright" thingie here! What are we all doing using LW (no, don't answer)? The point is, we aren't exactly saints. But we neither are "dirty criminals". If we are capable of twisting a wee bit about the copyright of the music, films, and whatever else, the same amount of "wee bit" can easily apply to IP addresses and other infos.

Don't get me wrong, Morgwen. I value your point, and to be fair, you are "right". It's just that we aren't, by definition, "right". :-)

(Oh, BTW if you were someone who's NEVER shared a copyrighted material on LW, you ARE a saint, and I'm not worthy talking to you)

Copyright
 

OK, next time I post a listing from arin, ripe or apnic, I'll e-mail them and get permission from them to reproduce the information first. Then I'll wait for your next excuse for it being removed from the forum. :P

"I was wondering what one could do to stop people from downloading pornography of a minor that was put on lime wire without their consent."

probably nothing (what was the minor doing making porn anyway)

"Is there any way to stop something like that other than taking legal action?"

against who, the minor for making porn?

"Who would I need to contact?"

the minor's parents maybe?

"I have a friend who has been exploited on this site without her consent and is underage."

but did she consent to makiing the (underage) porn?

"It has now gone all over the country and it needs to be stopped. If necessary I and several others are prepared to file a lawsuit against whoever this involves."

why was is even started if she is underage? who will you file the lawsuit against? the whole country? or the minor for making the porn?

"If a reply is posted to this, I will give further necessary information so that this video can be pulled from this and any other site it may be on. If not, legal action will be taken."

what's the name of that file? i'd love to see it!

hey Morgwen, how can you copyright an IP address??
that makes no sense at all. maybe i'll copyright this™

I'm getting the 272KB Hits
 

No matter what I search for, all I'm getting back for results are these 272KB asf files. It appears that this Idiot has figured out a way to Spoof Gnutella, or maybe he's created hundreds or thousands of identical files..... what an *** this person is.

I think he's at IP Address:

    ****

So, can we filter out this person ???

yeah, i've been getting the same thing, he somehow has a program that takes any search request & returns a file of that name (or if you're searching in any mode other than "any type" returns a file named "!.asf"). I added his ip to my block list (can't post it here because it'll get deleted) and that seemed to get rid of it.

Re: I'm getting the 272KB Hits
 

ARIN Whois (http://www.arin.net/whois/) will lead you to an address in Tampa, Florida. 64.156... is owned by a company called ****., which seems to be involved in adult entertaining industry. Google will let you know that there are complaints reported in the past. If you care to know their e-mail address, mail address etc., go to ARIN.

lets say we all do a mass DOS attack on this guy? if he really wants people to download that file, we can oblige. if just a few hundred people constantly request the file, he'll be so maxed out on bandwidth that he won't be able to connect & we won't have to deal with his fake search results!!!

(Disclamer: this is posted jokingly, i do not condone internet attacks in any way)

Blocking that IP Address
 

Dear Guest,

Thanks for the comment about 'block list'. I was not aware that I could do this in LW, since I never had to consider it until now. Seems to block that IP as expected.

What did you mean by:
 &nbsp  (can't post it here because it'll get deleted)
Why would your sharing of your Block list be deleted? I assume you mean deleted by some Admin of this forum.


We're Blocking this IP Address:
   ****

Re: Blocking that IP Address
 

Whoa... Here's another IP Address doing it too..


   194.213.194.37


This IP appears to belong to a Internet Hosting Company in Europe, Czech Republic.

Maybe if a few of us email the contacts, we can stop the abuse.
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This really raises a bigger question... will this abuse get worse?

[Post NO infos you got via RIPE etc.! I explained why!!!]

The WWW, Usenet, eMail and even IRC, - all popular networks and services have seen the problem of spam. Gnutella does not make an exception here. But since it's only a few hosts, that are spamming the network, and spam is very easy to identify, I don't think spam is a serious problem, yet.

Wehey!!!
JohnReam, you're a hero!

I know that not everyone's happy about posting personal infos, policing, and the rest, and of course I understand. But some of these spams really are doing no good. Not only that they are deceptive but more so they disturb our search results, speed, and credibility immensely.

I do hope, with the rest of you, that this board does not turn into a black list of IPs, but when necessity prevails, we know where to come. Thanks again for your action!

I try to explain it to you VERY SLOW!

This is a PUBLIC board - my job is to edit the copyright things out... because some lawers might think it is a GOOD IDEA to close this board here!

What I do in PRIVATE is an other story...

Morgwen

Aight, I'll respond VERY SLOW.
Huh?????
It IS commical when those who don't give a d*** about copyright "in private" would suddenly become conscientious about it "in public".

And again, like I said before, YOU ARE RIGHT! No question about that. I guess I'm saying, "don't expect enthusiastic support from us when it comes to copyright thingie."

Oh just for the record, I have not _yet_ posted any IP addresses or "copyrighted materials" on this board, because I like you. But I do find the posted IP addresses (two of them, currently), and I've taken the liberty to identify their servers, and have sent e-mails of complaint about the spam. Who knows, ISPs just might investigate and take appropriate actions. That's it for now.

Then the people should not wonder if they see an edit message under their post! I know other boards where the mods delete these posts without a warning, don´t expect that I want to complain in every post why I edit this or that! There is no discussion about this copyright thing, we all have to follow the laws...

The people who think they can do everything should create their OWN board and then they can do everything... until they get sued!!!

Morgwen

Who's saying we can do everything? Not me.
There's no point in violating the law or rule when there's no need.
And if you really want to stick to the law until death, no one's stopping you. But if you felt the need to twist the rules, you'll do it anyhow.

You are not obliged to notify anyone before you edit, it is, as you say, your prerogative. At the end of the day, you will do what you got to do, we do what WE got to do. And hopefully things won't get too heated.

(Why do I get the feeling you don't like me?)

morgwen:

What are "agreed internet operational purposes?"

In addition, you left out the next paragraph:

"A RFC [request for comments] document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this paragraph are included on all such copies and derivative works."

--http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/databaseref-manual.html#A3.1

So, now that we have that copyright included, let the IPs flow!

Post IPs but NO personal data! Ask RIPE if its allowed to post them here! The first paragraph says ALL!

The second says ONLY if RIPE agreed that you are allowed to copy the data you have to include this paragraph!

RIPE don´t know anything about this here so its sure no agreed copy!

Morgwen

P.S.:
I will close this thread if anybody post personal data! NO discussion about this point!

Yes I know this! But it seems that some people here think I have to explain my actions, this people are wrong! I do it sometimes that the people understand that this here is a free forum but this doesn´t mean that we bend the law here!

Feelings are sometimes wrong! Why should I hate you? You explained your point of view and I explained mine!

Morgwen

I am glad you have brought this to other peoples attention.
Also there are files that usually say (full-downloader) they have links built in that take you to porn sites or advertisements and by just downloading you get things added to your desk top....Annoying....is an understatement

I agree, posting more than IP address is not necessary (anyone can find those information through other sites). What matters is that we could at least let others know who is behaving badly, and that something may be done about it. I didn't know LW had the ability to block certain IPs, GOOD!

Well Morgwen, I am very relieved to know you don't hate me! Keep up your good work. I'll be hanging around as well.

can we have something like a registry of ips that return bad results?
this way we can limit their actions on GNET

IP's & Porn
 

Just for info, this same person is using more than one IP (or should I say, a variation) The first two sets of digits are the same, the last two are different. I have blocked at least 4 different variations of this IP.

Re: IP's & Porn
 

not to reveal personal info on him but i suspect all those IPs are in he czech republic. [one was, no offence to other czechs]

i read these messages out of curiousity, but whoever started this topic may have to re-evaluate THEIR own prerogatives. sorry to say it but alot of u seem like nosy and for no reason irritated people who want to put an end to limewire which in my opinion is one of the best file sharing programs out there. so in other words, use limewire if u want. if it bothers u dont use it anymore.

but don't use Bots to spam others.
that's whats hurting the gnutellanet.

share the file, but add the word spam so others can block the address. will that work?

Here is a trick i came up with ..

Search for a junk file by typing a bunch of nonsense like "lhfoihasdoifhosdhf;dshf"
Then .. anything that comes back as a positive hit .. right click and chek the box BLOCK IP ADDRESS of that user .. do it several times and you will block the asses that do that .. that is have stuff that makes files based on user searches .. who need that anyway..

Im no pro .. its just my observation