Did you know that installing LimeWire leaves behind a program called "eTraffic" that spies on EVERYTHING you do on your computer? Uninstalling LimeWire won't get rid of it, and it doesn't come with an uninstaller. It's disgusting that this is even legal.

Taken from http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../04212002a.php

Thx Afisk for your sincerity and integrity of information.

I wish we had more hackers like this! Can someone confirm this please?

I hope he will hack bearshare and post what he find out!

Morgwen

ETraffic appears to be part of the TopMoxie package that is installed with the "free" version of LimeWire. You're right, however, that uninstalling LimeWire won't get rid of TopMoxie. I can't remember if Ad-Aware even catches it... I don't believe it did. I seem to remember having to delete the TopMoxie directory manually. (I also went one step further and used "msconfig" to manually remove the ETraffic component from my startup items.)

Joe (its shorter )!

Did Limewire mention this somewhere? Afisk promised me that they want AT LEAST mention it when software will not be uninstalled?

Morgwen

i remember VTOLFreak telling us about topMoxie and eTraffic about three months ago, here's the thread...

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=7357

hmm...adam didn't tell him about that proxy thing, and he never came back after vtol discovered it by himself...that was a really, really bad move, limefolks...

Thanks Abaris!

And thanks to Limewire for open and honest information!

Morgwen

As mentioned previously in this thread Limewire did lie in the past about spyware and they don't want to change anything now. Instead they send their PR man Afisk. It's a shame this is legal!

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...&threadid=5022

Honestly I can't remember if there was something somewhere that said something specifically about TopMoxie. I'm one that typically rushes into an installation without really reading a lot of the fine print in the installer (like license agreements).

Yes,

some time ago via PM! But it was not TopMoxie, I think it was Gator or cydoor but you said you will mention the progs that will not be uninstalled via the Limewire installer!

Morgwen

i don't like the idea behind topmoxie at all. i'd like to contribute to limewire by using your "affiliate sites", but redirecting users from websites they enter in their browser...thats taking away customers from the services they choose to use.

hmmm...what would you say if i would recompile limewire from the sourcecode you offer on your site (it wouldn't even have banner ads then), sell it to users for 50$ and bundle it with a proxy that redirects them from "www.limewire.org" to "www.citrowire.com", to make sure they visit my website rather than yours?

as mentioned before in this thread, this scenario would be perfectly legal. but adam, don't tell me you would like it. that's very bad behaviour for a company willing to appear serious; even worse for a group that holds the administrative rights of the GDF. you are de facto a representative of gnutella's normative entity, and you shouldn't go on with buisness like this.

if i should use TopMoxie, i would insist on getting a complete list of the websites you take me away from, and those you redirect me to. i don't know if you have this information in your license agreement (for i never used limewire after 2.0.1). if you haven't, i would abort the installation immediately (and run adaware). even if you have, i wouldn't like it; i really want to choose what company to buy my stuff from. IMHO this is much worse than banner ads, for i can choose not to click on a banner, but i can not choose to be redirected or not. furthermore, it's no longer a deal between you and your users only. redirecting affects third party companies whom you are taking away the customers.

as i said before, that was a really, really bad move, limefolks.