Hi,
I heared you can buy coffee in south america, fly it to the USA and sell it on the NY streets direct to your customers. how about more noble business pratices: some noble italian busines men in NY sell life ensurances, sounds like making some bucks too. unlimited fantasy and no care about legal business are helpful.

I heared you can buy some other things there... especially in Columbia, and you get much better prices for this in New York!

I am kidding!!!

Morgwen

adam, i'm sorry if i misunderstood the concept of TopMoxie. One of the posts in the thread i mentioned before implied that one was redirected from certain servers to other ones, which i really would have many concerns about.
if one is really redirected to other areas of the same site only, that is a very different thing and not by far as bad as my former scenario.
however, i don't have to tell you about the popular points of view concerning proxies, especially those that stay on a computer after the program it came with is gone. it is quite natural that things like that are subject to speculations.
honestly, i don't take limewire for the big internet gangster, as i told more than once during this discussion. i see limewire's need for money, as any corporation has to make money in order to survive. but i also see that there are no noble ways to make money from gnutella. the only ways are to bundle stuff, display ads, collect information and the like.
i cannot really see any sense in your concept of TopMoxie. if i am just redirected from "amazon.com" to "amazon.com?affiliate=lime" or something like that, then why should amazon pay you? do they think i will visit amazon more often just because i have limewire installed? why should i, if i don't look carefully at the adress bar, i wouldn't even notice that amazon and limewire have any connection to each other, as you said.
man always fears what he cannot understand. it is natural that i sense a trap in this proxy thing, anything that makes its installation worth the money that your affiliates pay you. regarding the fact that all my internet traffic is indeed routed through TopMoxie, suspicions become even more concrete. i don't want to say now that topMoxie indeed spys on users, for i have no proof and i have not tested it. but i would still sense great danger in having it installed on my system.
perhaps you can clear things up and explain to me what makes TopMoxie so valuable for affiliate sites. i wouldn't want to badmouth your source of money without good reason.

As I understand it, TopMoxie redirect from amazon to amazon but they do it over a "small shortcut" that amazon think they were sent by Limewire!

Morgwen

From [Random-bits] Top Moxie spyware with Limewire

Well, to make a long story short, I recently downloaded and installed a
popular P2P application called "LimeWire". During the installation, it
gives the user a chance to de-select various other third-party promotional
software, which of course I chose not to install. However, after using the
product for a few days, then later uninstalling it, I found this curious
little application always running in the background whenever I started my
computer. In the MSCONFIG Startup group it's titled "ETraffic", which I
later found out gathers information from the computer and sends it out over
the net: ie "Spyware".

After further checking, I read way down in the LimeWire license agreement
(exactly 205 lines down) that it would also install this application too, in
a directory called TopMoxie. My contention with LimeWire and TopMoxie is
that, if the spyware is going to be installed as a bundled package, then it
should also be uninstalled with the "parent" software. But it was not,
leaving behind some 140 files and running secretly in the background and
sending out information forever should it never be detected.

I have since contacted topMoxie, and they refuse to admit any wrong doing,
but stated they would "look into the matter". Their argument was that if a
big application like Netscape can leave behind some of its bundled software
(like AIM -- AOL Instant Messenger), then why can't they too. Anyway, when
I confronted them with the fact that they also do not include any type of
uninstall software for ETraffic and topMoxie (not even in the Add/Remove
list), they did not address this in their reply.

All in all I think this is some pretty underhanded shenanigans that need
further looking into. Below is the email address I used for TopMoxie. The
contact's name is Patrick Toland, though it is signed by Al Davis. Thanks
for your interest. Please feel free to contact me if you have any other
questions or concerns.

TopMoxie Email: *email address removed*

--Michael Hefner

In the past Limewire has installed spyware without asking - it still does - and it will do in the future, if users do not complain. No matter what nice words the PR is telling afterwards, investigate and check Limewire against spyware. Sooner or later Limewire has gone trough all existing spyware and scumware. Nice history so far! To keep yourself uptodate with what's missing:

http://www.simplythebest.net/info/spyware.html
http://www.computerevidencerecovery.com/startprog.htm
Brand new spyware, soon in a Limewire next to you!

Btw, someone should document which spyware has been installed from Limewire and Bearshare so far, which were without asking the users?

Ya, but this is just downright underhanded. It's even MORE underhanded when users are expecting to help out another site by clicking on their affiliate links only to have TopMoxie redirect them under your affiliate entries. Or is TopMoxie intelligent enough to only hijack URLs that aren't already being referred by another affiliate? My guess is no... but please tell me I'm wrong!

And if it gets that bad will you quit your job? (as if it isn't there already)
You are as bad as the corporation you work for. You are responsible for this, DIRECTLY and don't think you can hide behind your corporation!
Corporations will do anything to shove SPAM in your face!
When I uninstall a program, it should completely remove ANYTHING it installed! If not, then you are a criminal in my eyes, leaving scumware on my computer to benefit and profit your company!
Take responsibility Adam! Grow up!

yes, everything is not spyware, harmless and full optional, not installed secretly, totaly announced and all scumware will be automatically removed when uninstalling Limewire. It's a lie. The Limewire history showed nothing is true.

We wait for the current spyware being removed and being replaced by the next. it's a neverending story. I can't await more PR and false promises. I can't await the next BonziBUDDY from Limewire!

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Editors Warning: LimeBUDDY is serious spyware, but we tell you afterwards we didn't know, AFTER we made some bucks. Stay tuned for more great spyware soon in your Limewire, promised!

[edit note - there is enough spyware out there we don´t need to provide it here]

Is there a list with bundled "adware" in Limewire?
Is there a list with previously bundled software in Limewire?