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Old July 14th, 2002
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Don't forget the most important part of the document:
Paper received 8 August 2000; revision received 19 September 2000; accepted 27 September 2000.
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Old July 14th, 2002
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Default What, it being almost 2 years old?

I wonder if that figure is higher now? All I know is I was able to download each & every file I requested on Audio Galaxy & I didn't use Limewire for months. I found the most obscure music imagineable. Now with Limewire, I get about 10% of my requests, and that is stretching it quite a bit...

I deleted the Gnutella servers from my preferences, and I am only using the Limewire router. Would that cut down on the number of successful finds or downloads? I set it up to allow uploads only 25%, and I kick off any non limewire connections. What else can I do to find the obscure songs? I can't listen to most modern commercial music, which is crap.

For example, the only song by the ****** I can find is the Jackass theme, which is correctly titled ******. They recorded dozens of songs, but I can't find more than one.

Can anyone be of any help?

A frustrated JiLm... :0(

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Old July 15th, 2002
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Default re: bad_vlad where the the hell are you finding music

I stand by my comments but there are a couple of issues here - yes there are fewer LW ultrapeers and morpheus folk seem a tad stingy but we need to carefully distinguish between user characteristics and software architecture - morpheus ultrapeers are not as good as LW ultrapeers because half the time they shouldn't be ultrapeers at all but the software defaults position them that way anywayz - and at least they do offer files (more than indicated by the file counts) - I think a bigger problem is the way both BS and LW 'preference' themselves and so 'clump' the network (I NEVER!!! get anything through a BS ultrapeer) - the other issue is the short lifespan of the connection to ultrapeers - I never get a 'fix' that lasts more than a minute or two (the lineup of hosts is incredably volatile - unecessarily so I would've thought) - the upside is that the return from search results is equaly volatile but the downside of this is of course that too often listed results are outdated by the time I've scrolled down to them - whatever - my experience is still that with PATIENCE its possible to locate and download very obscure high bit rate versions of files that simply cannot be obtained otherwise (eg the 320 kb unreleased studio version of Patti Smith doing "when doves cry" that took me week to get a complete download of) - even with just a 56k modem connection it seems to me that I'm 'ending up' with dam fine files and ny major issues are not with non-sharing users but re-queries that aren't (as someone else said the message should really be changed to 'you're doomed') - ultrapeers that move too fast and BS that should be a 'best friend/partner' actually being the cousin that hates you

Cheers, bad_vlad
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Question how can we make it so you only search once?

I see what you are saying. When I moniter the connections, they drop off so quick. Why would that be? Is there anything that can be done so a person does not have to keep on it, as I have to go to work & do other things, and I really don't have the time to keep searching over & over. That was the best part of AG, in that you search once, then leave the client going & eventually you connect.

Here, once you find something, it drops off so quick, you can't capture it. I just don't have time for repeated searches.

So, from what I gather, the Gnutella system will never work like the AG system, correct? Do you know of any AG similar system, or where they a one-of-a-kind, or am I just stuck with having to search over & over & over for the same songs? Thanks for your patience...

JiLm
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Old July 15th, 2002
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I'm not clear about what is going on here. With download requeries you can start a download and you'll eventually get it. If no results are returned adding the search to the wish list will send out a query to begin a download. So it seems like LimeWire will finish the download after a period of time.
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Default Hmmm

Thanks for pointing that out. I haven't used that feature yet. I'll give it a try. Thanks again for your help.
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Default requeries, AG, and wishlists

I'm sure I'll be delighted if someone can show me I'm wrong but I don't know of AG type setups anywhere else - I keep reading in the groups about this or that alternative based in Poland or Uzbekistan or wherever but my experience has been that (like AG actually) they don't work for me for mysterious and inexplicable reasons (I wish I'd kept a list of all the different error messages I've been presented with) or they've crashed under the weight of visitors or they've folded because of the way they face a much greater legal risk exposure. The decentralised p2p systems are relatively safe from legal attack and are a genuinely exciting way to exploit the potential of the internet.

Re: the wishlists and requeries - its hard not to just sigh and say "get real" - the fluidity of the ultrapeer connections coupled with the real time gaps between actual requeries being sent out (as opposed to the friendly little message implying that requeries are being sent as you watch) mean that the chances of a requery resulting in a conection AND download are so close to zero its false advertising to have the button there at all

I'm interested to hear someone else bothered about the slippery ultrapeer connection - I'd be really interested to hear from a LW developer about the possibility for firstly stabilising those connections a little and secondly doing something about LW and BS giving each other the cold shoulder (so silly - both would benefit hugely from better compatability)

Cheers, bad_vlad
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Exclamation Limewire quality a LEMON?

This is totally bogus money is paid for this program and i can't even download a single file. Limewire is a Lemon ;(
And it's left a very bad taste, i'll be very sure not to reccomend limewire to anyone i know
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Default LW 'bogus'

So what money? - you paid a whole 10 bucks for the pro version or you just downloaded it free like most everyone else. I obviously think there are things that could be improved about LW but to say its bogus is just silly. LW has probably the best user interface of any p2p system, it has a large user base and it quite clearly and undeniably 'works' - no its not napster or AG but those days/setups are gone (probably forever) - as a p2p system LW yields good results if you're prepared to make an effort rather than demand instant gratification - lighten up and you'll find LW is efficient and mercifully free of the icky cuteness of BS and the 'welcome to cool/insider group' feel of all those fringe programs that come and go so fast (all promising to be the killer app that'll be just as good as AG, Napster etc was - in the rosy glow of fond memory)
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Old July 15th, 2002
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Default I can't connect at all to the LimeWire Router

Unable to connect to the Limewire router. I deleted the Gnutella connections prefs.

Is anyone else experiencing this, or have the cut me off?
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