ISP's really don't care about such stuff (unless its found being hosted on their servers)...

law enforcement and some private groups do the policing....

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interesting. im from the UK and in 2007, my 12 year old cousin came to visit. he's a bit weird and was searching "sexual harrassment" and God knows what else on the internet. just a few days before he was due to leave, my dad got a phone call from our isp (orange) saying we're having out internet temporarily disconnected to investigate "inappropriate use".

this hasn't happened with me downloading kp by accident, so i guess i have nothing to worry about. Still, it makes me so angry that LW, a very useful program, has to be polluted like this

interesting.. i always thought it was ISP's. a little while back (2007) my american cousin who's 12 came to visit. he's a bit messed up so he was searching sexual harrasement and other strange stuff online, and a few days before he was due to leave our isp (orange) cut our line to investigate. Nothing happened since then..

and I'm sure such activity was reported to the ISP....woops...you're in the UK....cough, cough..

yeah, there is 'eavesdropping' going on over there...was he using a search engine?..

there are websites where one can report such activities and they will contact the ISP, the law, or both...

cpHotline.org
ASACP: Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection
Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) | Home

in general ISP's aren't too eager to do such policing...it cuts into the profit margin...

as a point of fact: its not LW that is polluted by such things, its certain users that are sharing the material...I can only think of one p2p platform that isn't infested with the stuff, and that's IRC (and it isn't really p2p in that sharing is not required, and because of the way the networks are set up open channels promoting such stuff would be removed by the central servers)...and I bet there are a couple of hidey holes even there...

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hm. one thing im wondering is, do the law enforcers or whoever is policing the web and p2p's let a user rack up a load of illegal activity (by which i mean downloading kp) before catching them?

obviously they're supposed to be looking out for the true consumers and primarily, the producers, but in order to do so they will have to wait and observe a user doing it repeatedly? my faith in the justice system is pretty poor so it would be quite worrying to hear that they'll just cuff anyone near the stuff, accidental or not.

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You may not be aware of this but the UK Government is well forward in it's plan to snoop on all forms of telecommunications within the country. Please check the following articles:

Snooping database has to happen says gov't - Software - Breaking Business and Technology News at silicon.com

Especially this one from June 2002:

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Official site to advise on state snooping

BBC NEWS | UK | UK Politics | Agency denies internet spy plans

In fact, if you search the BBC News website you will find stories of Government plans, dating back to 2000, to snoop on UK citizens Internet usage.

The only way to protect yourself is to restrict your Internet browsing and don't let anyone else use your PC.

Saying that, and as I said before, the Government is looking for persistent offenders and not accidental downloaders.



UK Bob

PS. Also, don't forget that there is a Government backed anti-P2P campaign, run by Virgin, going on at the moment.

yeah, but theres going to be a limit on their snooping. i mean, how long do ISP's keep user records? doesnt the Data Protection Act force them to destroy their files after a certain length of time?

The aussie government discussed this .. afaik (prove me wrong if you like) .. it was down voted .. invasion of privacy. I guess USA & UK govs do not understand or respect privacy. Exception is for Child pornography however in most countries in the world. Over here they will set the person up, not invade them without evidence. In general, the legal approach here is 'innocent until proven guilty'. Whereas I believe in USA 'you are guilty until proven innocent'.

Different countries have different requirements upon ISP's keeping history records (some governments require the ISP keeps records for a certain amount of time.) And also in part it's up to the specific ISP in some cases as to how long 'they' decide to keep records.

you might just be really surprised about this concept....I'd have worded it more like there is no limit to their snooping...

case in point: your story about your cousin....

if you want to read some stuff that is rather scary, go here:

PrisonPlanet Forum - Index

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It is not LW that is polluted, it's the Gnutella network.