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Old February 11th, 2004
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Topbanana:

I'm glad that you understand this. I believe that many others do as well. It is unfortuntate that some people believe incorrectly of course, that I am some how anti-P2P because I am anti-piracy. This usually reflects the ignorance of the person attempting to blast me for my efforts.

There are two ways to approach this situation one is within the system and the other is outside of the system.

If you work within the system you can accomplish a lot without the legal hassle. Many of the problems facing the P2P community and ISPs can be resolved in simple ways. In fact the solution is in place now and has been for many years but as usual the problem is the people. They won't follow the rules when given the opportunity to do so but complain when forced to comply either through court action or greater ISP restrictions.

They create the very situation they want to avoid which is more monitoring, more restrictions etc.

Some people have difficulty understanding this concept. You can only patch a problem for so long at some point you have go to the root of the problem thus the lawsuits against individual users.

The ISP should NOT be responsible for monitoring peoples activities. The P2P providers should not be in the business of restricting the functionality of P2P applications. The responsibility rests solely with the end users.

People totally overlook the fact that ANYONE can become a member of ANY P2P community so you never know who you are getting your files from and who is getting files from you.


Therefore, technologies the claim to protect your identity are all bogus because they give people a false sense of security because they are constructed to address one of the many ways piracy investigations can be conducted. But again, people always over look the obvious.

Anyone could build a super secure P2P application. All that work goes to waste the moment any / everyone can use it.

I wish that those that complain the loudest could understand this.


But that remains my hope.
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Old February 11th, 2004
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Lee and TB--thanks again for your major contributions to the protection of gnutella. Like the magnetmix effort, the US courts like to see significant non-infringing content on gnutella, right? I can't find the link, but I recall 10-20% . Don't both of you upload gigs of non-infringing material daily

FWIW, my ISP has been very cooperative helping me get gnutella connectivity to distribute my original non-infringing content, but are reluctant to give up their usual kazaa controls. I also share what I can of your collections TB (they are far better prepared than my pics).

Keep on educating. RIAA FUD can't trump legitimate use.
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Old February 15th, 2004
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[HOCKKKKKKKK >>>>> >> Phtewwwooey!]

This board is obviously meant for a different audience (people like Lee, the RIAA, MPAA, lawyers, et al.) I would post links to some cool sites on this topic but I'm afraid that danged Lee would visit & infect those boards as well. Like that bedbug case where those people are sueing the Ocean City Hotel because bedbugs hitched a ride back to their house and they ended up having to destroy $20,000 worth in bedding, furniture, & clothing. Who knows what damage Lee can do with all his funding and idle time. Entire boards could be lost. LOL!

Lee, you remind me of the guy in the diner that sits at the bar, orders a bottomless cup of coffee (and nothing else) and talks non-stop for hours and hours to the waitresses and anybody else that is unfortunate enough to be within earshot. Meanwhile the waitresses and other customers are polite and just try to get away from the guy but what they really want to say is, "SHUT THE HELL UP!" Lee, you're like that guy but instead of sitting at a bar your sitting on this board and the truth is your posts are like diarrhea - excessive, frequent, flatulent, and filled with watery feces.

Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!
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Old February 15th, 2004
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When you are too ignorant to offer anything of value to a conversation make yourself feel better by removing any doubt of ignorance. We can always count on certain people to do this i.e. they don't read and if they do, they have problems with comprehension which leads to flawed thinking and worse idiotic comments which reflect the fact that not only are they ignorant but they don't even know it.

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Wink plop plop, phiz phiz....

Are you trying to say my post didn't add value? Huh... I put a lot of thought & effort into that. At least 10 minutes. And don't you have any life at all? I post and you reply immediately. Are you surgically connected to the computer? I bet you are. Probably connected thru your butt. That would explain your diarreah posts. Oh when oh when will the diarreah end???
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Old February 17th, 2004
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A whole day without lee! Hoorah!!!!

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Old February 17th, 2004
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Good news, Slink. The Gnutella forum moderators have agreed to enable the "T2T" option in the vBulletin software used here. This will connect the forum to hundreds of other similar sites, allowing us to freely exchange trolls using the servers spare capacity.

Admittedly we're a bit light on good quality shareable material right now, but perhaps in time we'll manage to trade you for something worthwhile.
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Old February 17th, 2004
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Good news, Slink. The Gnutella forum moderators have agreed to enable the "T2T" option in the vBulletin software used here. This will connect the forum to hundreds of other similar sites, allowing us to freely exchange trolls using the servers spare capacity.
Sorry, we had to cancel 'T2T' due to overload.


This thread has been remarkable for the generally cool and balanced 'behaviour'* maintained while discussing subjects that normally bring out the impassioned worst of people.
Very refreshing and appreciated !

I am surprised that no one has mentioned this from Janis Ian...

http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html

... which should be read in its entirety along with the follow-up article 'Fallout'.
(Perhaps it is now considered 'old', but that would be an error.)

Another, and far more devastating threat to all of us, is exposed here !!!

As for the dear slink device, the posts have value in one regard... They encourage me to quote a great moderator on another forum...

Kindly refrain from abusive language in the conferences, and to borrow from an old saying, from this point on it's probably better for you to shut up now and appear stupid rather than keep posting and remove all doubt.

c u







*Except for Peerless, of course !
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Old July 28th, 2008
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Default limewire downloads

With all this info on theft, copyright infrignement, etc is limewire only making non-copyrighted songs, video available to its customers for download?
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Old March 28th, 2024
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Originally Posted by trap_jaw4 View Post
I'm living in Germany, our ISPs are not allowed to hand out names and addresses to the RIAA or the German equivalent.

There have not been any lawsuits against p2p-users for sharing music yet. If they finally come to Germany, I will start using my ISPs http proxy to upload files, so they cannot track my IP.

Get a VPN provider that is not in the US, or use the Tor network.
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