Ban Morpheus again
 

Now that they changed their agent, they can dl from us again. However they don't play fair with other gnutella clients even with updating their GnucDNA. See the thread here: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=27906

Ciao

there are some problems with banning Morpheus:
1) they can change their user agent again and again
2) the only way to ban Morpheus for good would require you to ban some other vendors and older LimeWire versions too.

That aside: +1

Banning Morpheus, possibly even all GnucDNA based clients until they have fixed their implementation is a good idea.

Salut Trap_Jaw,
Isn't LW has remote control of some kind in 4.1.x betas for the network topology? Would that be able to include bad vendor such as corrupted GnucDNAs?

Ciao

Edit: or simply get LW users to get a security update once a week with newest virus (morpheus) definitions?

LimeWire has not added the capability to control the banned vendors remotely. I did submit a patch to enable LimeWire to do that but LimeWire seems to be very busy with getting ver. 4.2 out.

The problem remains: Morpheus could start faking BearShare connection headers or gtk-gnutella connection headers, we have no means of identifying securely. Morpheus will need some time to react to another ban, but to ban them securely, LimeWire will have to start to add some kind of secure handshake to identify other vendors.

Well Bearshare has a more secure mecanism to identify other Bearshare (with identity keys and encryption) than LW. That's one benifit of close source VS open source. Even if LW did somthing special to identify good clients, there are always easy workarounds when you can read the code. If the Morpheus people were sincere, they would have kept the Morpheus identity instead of morph410, morph420 etc... and get their act together (as my other thread said...) to improve their own gnutella engine so LW unban them. Thing is you CAN'T trust morpheus devs and other profitors :( despite what their fanboys say.

Ciao

I know Peerless. But, it is clear now that I'm on their case:) In Québec the slogan on cars is: Je me souviens, which means "I remember" so I do remember them. Just for laugh, here is a review of morpheus on download.com by Anadalan: (http://www.download.com/3302-2166_4-10313364.html)
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"Morpheus keeps getting better, if they keep up the good work i will love it more"
and vampmon and kayaman r the people who make morpheus so u should say thx 2 them i see it on gnutellaforums.com and click gnucDNA based client then click morpheus keep up the good work guys!!! !!! !!!
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LOL
:D

Hey at least he also promoted our side, next time he should post a direct link. :)

Morgwen

See? I always knew that Morpheus was a Liar. The true reality is the one that he calls "the Matrix" in order to decieve below-zero-IQ individuals such as that Thomas A. Anderson guy. I think it was pretty obvious that the Agents were the good guys. Unfortunately, the best one, Smith became a traitor and it all went downhill from there.
And poor Cypher in the first movie? He tries to help them, put them out of their misery and what does he get? They fry him up real nice. Ingrates.
Plus, nobody seems to agree with my views on that flick. After I've presented them to people, they call me names and start boo-ing me. I just don't understand.

On a more serious note, after reading the greater part of et voilàs thread adressed to Kayaman, and posts in the Morpheus forums (plus some additional reviews who trash it), I find myself thinking, why do they put Adware and other stuff like that in it? And about that comparison with LW (you know, the "we put them in the bundle, but LW does it too so it's ok" kind of thing), I personally (and I think that many people will agree) don't consider that poor little window that appears on start-up asking you if you'd want to go to Pro as Adware (or any other kind of malicious stuff). On the other hand, I read in reviews in download.com that Morpheus has put so much stuff in and other similar complaints. How is this comparable? Isn't there a difference between "one ad to help developement" and a "so much stuff in that it becomes frustrating"?
Granted, I've never used Morpheus so I will stop talking. I just wanted to make a little point.

Matrix note: I hate Cypher that I called the "Rat". M. Smith was definitly the coolest of the serie. And yes murasame, your likings of those movies are weird ;)

Well I'm testing every Morpheus going out. Vampmon complains about the pro window at startup with LW. I agree it's annoying. Here what does Morpheus however: At first install they ask if you don't want to buy Morph ultra instead for 20$ /6 months (1.11$ more than LW even if they use open source apps, not much dev work). I select free. They install Mysearchbar and ebates. Morpheus starts, there are pop ups (ads) coming from the default browser (great :o ) I remove the two spywares. I test Morpheus, it is buggy, unstable and too much processor intensive. I see they are still leeching and that they changed some icons since the last version. I close the POS. I want to uninstall it. When uninstalling they ask if I'm sure, that if I want they can tell me how to uninstalling the spywares (great they tell at uninstallation :rolleyes: ) I click I'm sure they they pop a window that I can't skip asking for what reason I uninstall the POS (I always select swithching to another P2P:D ).

Morpheus... who???? Truth is that if there is new debates between Kayaman/Vamp and me, I have still arguments not used yet, héhéhé.

Ciao

PS: half of the 5/5 reviews on dl.com come from Morpheus devs and there suppoters in the Morpheus IRC channel, so ignore them...

Geez, is that true? I mean, I kinda had a hint of suspicion, especially after reading about M$ and the Steve Barkto "incident". I never thought that they would go that far, so are you sure?

And about Cypher, he was a rat: he ratted the Neb crew out, plus he kinda looks like one (sorry Mr. Pantoliano). He's an absolutely detestable character. Good riddance. And the first part of the Matrix trilogy (namely the first flick) is one of the best films of the decade. And in it, Morpheus was one of the most a$$kicking black mofo's of all time. You realize of course that I'm beeing forced to write all this.

Ever heard about the amazon.com fiasco last year? The system went wrong and displayed the real identity of reviewers... Many books were reviewed a lot of times in a row by the author to get higher marks and get more sales. Download.com is no exception. I never rated softwares on that site because the registration process is long and stupid, but some can afford the time when "developping a P2P app" :D

Yes the first Matrix is definitly a classic!

et voilà, do you think we really have the time to register a new email address, then register again with CNET, then post a review. Maybe you do when it comes to LimeWire, but i don't, I'm sorry you feel that way about Morpheus.

After the Smart installer has downloaded, you will be asked if you want to go Ultra or stick with the free version, personally I have not seen any user complain about this, although I have seen many people complain about LimeWire basically begging people to go PRO. A list of how to uninstall and what is installed with Morpheus can be found here
www.morpheus.com/MorpheusValueAddedSoftware.html .

It’s not hard to uninstall something in the uninstall dialog, but if you really find it that hard, I’m sorry. You can go Ultra @ www.MorpheusUltra.com and install NO bundled software, and not have to worry about Adware. Btw Morpheus Ultra is only $1.07 more then LimeWire PRO, if you really want to post facts, post things truly.

EDIT:

If you really want to purchase ULTRA, then I’ll be happy to refund the difference for you et voilà ;)

If you want to bribe him you should at least give him a free Ultra version. :)

Better a house, a boat and a car. :D

Morgwen

LOL for 4 cents... BIG difference. My mistake. I nerver bought LW pro... Tell me why should I buy a POS that: steals other people sources, aren't opensource, are leeching, are lying, aren't transparent witheir activities, don't innovate, put spyware, aren't helping P2P... etc etc

Hard isn't it?

Ciao

Exactly! ;)

Prove your points please

LOL he can have my dads old banger of a car, you'd have to spend a few dollars.... $100... $1000 to repair it

GOOD LUCK!!! ;)

Not again!!! I do believe you are suffering alzheimer sir. :(

Vampmon, whenever I see you complaining about LimeWire's PRO ads in the basic version, I shall post the attached image as a follow-up. Just to let people know what you consider an acceptable amount of advertisements in the GUI.

Ok, let me break it down... Lying???

Ok now I seriously consider you as a troll paid by streamcast to troll here. Return into channel Morpheus on IRC please! You should not access gnutellaforums.com without the supervision of your parents sir!

Aurevoir!

OK, first of, try posting the latest Morpheus 4.2... AND LimeWire also have an AD banner at the bottom of the FREE version advertising PRO and when you load up the application.

EDIT:

And for people who uninstall the bundles many not get banner ads!

OR simply download MORPHEUS ULTRA

I don't want to poke my nose in other people's affairs but personally, that "banner" at the bottom of the LW window is so damn small and insignificant that I've forgotten about it a long time ago (I will buy nonetheless. Don't worry). From the image that trap_jaw4 has provided, I think that LW's teeny tiny banner and the ones in Morph don't compare. And I don't know if that happens with Morph too, but the ad image that is in the background of LW whenever there are no seaches up, dissapears to display the search results.

Doing some uninstalling...

I know the image quality is rubbish, sorry...

That's no longer the case.

I see you share 0 file Vampmon, which doesn't matter since Morpheus is a leech, isn't it?

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

No, I do share files, I share all the files, MP3, software files etc, I deliberately removed my shared folders for this print screen.

There are better and clean clients why should we install this bullshit and remove it later? :rolleyes:

Morgwen

What is the big deal in uninstalling something? What harm will it do to you?

First I have more work, second I said that there are better and clean clients, so why should I do this EXTRA work?

Should I repeat it an other time for you? :rolleyes:

Morgwen

What clients are better then Morpheus? “Better clients” that is your opinion, other users may say different!

And, it will only take you an extra 1 min to uninstall the extra bundles. It isn't very hard

Vampmon, I'm tired of you :o
http://www.slyck.com/programs.php?cat=2

Take that list, remove Morpheus, iMesh, trustyfiles, ES5 and then you have the answer to your question.

Vampmon, - there are objective criteria according to which you can decide which of two clients is the better one. Starting with CPU/memory consumption, total bandwidth consumed for overhead up to the amount of users your searches reach and the number of users who can effectively search you. "Better" is not subjective although it depends on the habits, interests and resources of user who expresses his preferences.

Nothing wrong with iMesh, TrustyFiles or MORPHEUS.

trap_jaw4: Ultimately, whatever rocks your boat at the end of the day is what is better for your. Ok, some people may not be able to run Morpheus, some people may not like Morpheus, same goes to LimeWire, BearShare, Kazaa, iMesh etc... But et viola is totally BITTER about Morpheus!

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Nothing is wrong with Iran's nuclear plans too. And North Korea is a great democracy.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

woo where did this last post come from I though it was about banning morpheus.
anyways I totaly agree

wait this can be comfusing for some people when I said I totally agreed I ment with banning morpheus. morpheus was made by sharman networks, if it's like kazaa dam that's not good. I hate kazaa. and I heard morpheus became full of viruses and crap. is it still the same one we are talking about? or is this new

If you're gonna waste web space
stupididiot69er at least say what you mean! Don't be ambiguous! Look it up! It's your english lesson for today!

Hello my modem has failed me again for a quick response!

OK Vampmon listen to stupididiot69er's wise words! Rock it stupididiot69er! Show us yor grit!

stupididiot69er: Morpheus used the network core of Kazaa in versions 1.x so up to march 2002. Since then, they have used the Gnucleus gnutella core to access Gnutella (well they did use Jtella for a year).

Thing to learn: they have never coded their own engine. They use other people's work to get money.

hmm now I understand. man these people are :caught: messed up up there and greedy

Wait, they made many major changes they added many usefull ads, some very helpfull programs (crapware) and some links to funny websides - I think they earned their money! ;)

Morgwen

Here is a fictive conversation I expect to happen in this thread between Vampmon and me:

Vampmon: Well they got NEOnet working and it is performing admirably.

et voilà: we are talking about gnutella though. While it is true that NEOnet is their first own product since Morpheus appeared in 2001, they are still using Gnucleus to access gnutella and G2 while mlDonkey is used to access Fasttrack and ED2K. (you have to understand that gnucleus and mldonkey are kown to be buggy). Switch to NEOnet only, pulllhease!
PS: good work on bundling ads in your app, they are really obvious to the willing customer that I am.

:D

Okay, I'm just poking my nose where I don't belong again, but I just want to say something:
stupididiot, no offence but have you even tried Morpheus? I haven't so I prefered not to talk (much) about it because I don't know if it's good or bad. I think that, if you don't know what is being talked about, then don't talk abou it yourself. The other people most probably have already tried (at least once) Morpheus. And don't get me wrong. I'm not taking sides here.
I just prefer to talk about something when I know a little something about it. If you do know then sorry and ignore this post.

NO, Morpheus MADE KaZaA. OK, Sharman made the software but Morpheus made the network, i say this because if it was not for Morpheus then KaZaA would properly not be as popular as it is today. Morpheus does not contain any sort of virus; get facts straight before posting something.

BTW, i was going to say something else to you, but i would properly get banned for that. :( :(

well before it had viruses (or was that just another rumer) and yes I have tried it but na don't like it

Morpheus has never had any sort of virus. This is just what people say to bleach Morpheus’ name. Morpheus has greatly improved already and more work is being put into it to make it the best file sharing application available!

As I’ve said before, Morpheus 4.2/4.3 is only the beginning!

Watch your back.

Morgwen

I wouldn´t say it to loud, Morpheus bundles a lot of crapware and there are/was some between which had viruses. Limewire had two years (?) ago a virus in a program named "clicktillyouwin", the developers said that they don´t check the programs they bundle, they trust to the signed agreement... I suppose the morpheus developers do it the same way.

Morgwen