I realise I was side-tracking a little with the firewall issue. Sorry about that. But thanks for the info & advice, much appreciated UK Bob!

Cheers

Lotr

ukbobby -- as I've said in every single post about the installers, the international installer will use Java 1.3 unless you delete the 'jre' subdirectory from LimeWire. If you want to use a newer version of Java and not delete the 'jre' directory, use the English installer. Mentions of stability, etc... are a moot point, because they're the exact same program.

LOTR -- The LimeWire installer installs Java 1.3 right now if it doesn't detect any version of Java on the machine. This is because the 1.3 JRE is about 1/3 the size of the 1.4 or 1.5 JRE, and when someone installs LimeWire, we want them to be able to use it ASAP. As I mentioned in an elsewhere (a while ago), we're exploring ways to unify the installers and use a newer version of Java by default.

Dear sberlin

Thanks for your summary of the Java problem, but I do feel that as a user I should not have to delete V1.3 to get LW Pro to use my installed V1.5, LW should detect the latest version of Java automatically. As the LW team are working towards this goal then I can wait until the finished product is ready.

In addition, you say stability is a moot point, which is probably correct from a technical point of view and looking at LW in isolation. However, I have to consider my PC as a whole, the myriad of things I call upon it do and whether I should risk its destabilisation in the hope of getting a few extra features.

As I have said before, the stability and security of my PC mean more to me than anything else.




UK Bob

Like 99% of all other users, but Sam explained you that the international and English versions are the same. Same program same stability.

Morgwen

You know Morgwen

want stability, I wish that was true because based on my own experience I know of home users that do not think about security or stability, until something goes wrong.

I have a colleague that has been working in IT for about 30 years yet his attitude towards his home computer has been cavalier, until his browser and Internet connection got hi-jacked.

My sister told me that she would not use a firewall on her home PC because it slowed down her Internet surfing. A month or two later I got a plaintive e-mail cry for help detailing the problems she was having. She had so many problems that all I could advise was that she did a complete reinstall of her system.

If my experience is typical then most home users do not really think about security or/and stability just about getting on the web as soon as possible.




UK Bob

I'm affraid your to right there ukbobboy, a recent inquiry showed that 75% of home computers are infected with spyware.
Most people have no clue about spyware. As long as their computer works everything is OK.

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Dear RaaF

You are spot on, and the growth in "phishing" has shown above all else that home PC security is that last thing on home users minds.

Phishing used to, and still is, con men from Africa trawling the Internet for gullible home users who are stupid and greedy enough to give away their bank details. Now, because it has been so profitable for these small time con artists, the Mafia type criminal gangs have moved in on it, albeit with more sophistication.

Simply put, if someone walked up to you in the street and asked you for your bank details you would tell that person to get lost. Yet there are loads of people willingly giving out their bank details simply because they received an email asking for it.

You know, along with PC security software a little common sense goes a long way, it’s just that PC home users tend not to bother.



UK Bob

ukbobboy01 wins the november 'Most Honest Exposure of Internet Idiots' Award !!!

Man, that IS the way IT IS...

[Enter RANT Mode]

The majority of 'complaint' posts here, and in all other p2p based forums, are written by children (of ALL ages) who make no effort whatsoever to protect themselves from the 'outside internet baddies', never 'clean' their HDDs, never defragment their HDDs... Never anything...

And they blame their problems on the client...

end rant

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Dear LW People

As if to emphasise my previous post about phishing, this just turned up today.

It makes interesting reading:




UK Bob

Doh. I had to look the meaning of phishing up. Learn something new everyday. lol