I live in the US which means that every music video outlet is either owned by MTV or they have enough controlling stock in that they can decide what music videos will be seen on American Television. That means that 99.99% of every music video ever made are blacklisted at the whims of about 4 or 5 television executives, and that includes many hit videos shown in the 80's. I have found that the only way to see some of these videos has been to look for them on P2P's such as LimeWire, but there are still hundreds of videos I have not found by searching and many others I have found but are from hosts that are so busy that I cannot connect or others who are there long enough to get the first 30 seconds of a video before they disconnect and are gone for weeks, months, or never come back. And then there is the problem of searching for an artist whos name is the same as porno videos. If I was to look for 80's teen pop star Tiffany I would get hundreds of results for hardcore porno files. The same with the rock group Vixen. And thene there are the times when I think I'v found a video which turns out to be an ipod ad, or when someone puts an mp3 file on a video file [ why? ].

I know that there must be many other users out there who are interested in sharing music videos, and many others who do have copies of rare videos on VHS who could turn them into computer files. Shouldn't there be an agreed time when these people could all log on at the same time so searching and downloading would be easier, and they could chat or use the forum to request videos that are not on the network from those who may be able to add a file? Or does such an agreed time exist and I do not know about it yet?

if anyone actually did have any Tiffany or Vixen on video Im sure the evidence was destroyed long ago...or they wouldnt admit to it


also.....asking millions of people worldwide to log on to LW at a certain time so YOU can browse their shared folders is rediculous...think of what you are asking....

It wouldn't just be me browsing but them browsing me and all of us browsing each other. I am sure that I have something that someone else was looking for. I do have a good VHS library of videos that are no longer available that someone may be interested in as I am sure that someone else may have the videos I am interested in. But if we are never signed in at the same time and date then that would make no difference.

I'm looking for the following music videos by ILLEGAL ACTIVITY
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Edited to comply with the House Rules.
Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form.

I am never able to find these videos and whenever I do find these titles on something that looks like a video, it never is a music video but a 23 second ad for iPod!

RETRO

Learn to read the house rules. http://www.gnutellaforums.com/announ...php?forumid=29

Then you might understand what you did wrong.

Music videos do not have the same copyrights as CD's or movies. Because record companies are distributing them as promotional material and are shown for free on television, they can not make the argument that they are losing money when they are traded as files. All they can do is prevent others from using their videos to generate money, such as putting them on an ad supported website or selling them on DVD. As you know, making copies is protected as fair use and the only legal argument against this is if making copies robs the copyright holder of income from the material. They cannot make this argument with music videos that were released as promotional material. If in the future the record companies offer music videos as paid downloads then maybe they would have some legal leg to stand on, but until then all that those trading videos are doing is giving each other the chance to see what MTV has refused to air.

Except that is what is called in legal terms "Self serving". In other words they can print their own rules on a tape, but as they have no legislative powers then they have no rights to inforce said rules. For instance if I was to rip that tag off my mattress that says "Do not remove under penalty of the law" then the mattress company cannot go to the police and demand my arrest without getting laughed at. If the record companies do not want their material copied then they would need a specific law on the books to back that up, otherwise they made a rule that cannot be legally inforced by anyone.

Having said that, these rules only apply to the media outlets who recieved these tapes. While the record companies could punish them for abusing the rule by refusing to send them videos in the future, they have little els to go on. And media outlets, especially MTV, have transfered these videos, if what you mean is dubbing copies. And since this only applies to the media outlets, it does not apply to those who tape these videos at home and who do not see such rules posted. Once again, the only way to stop file sharing of music videos is to prove that it is illegal and the only way to do that is to prove loss of revenue due to unfair competition from the un-paid for downloads. As they are still not selling 99% of their music videos then there is no way they can argue even this. Besides, if they did have a pay service that let people download videos, prefebly ones that do not air on American television or have not in years, no one would even bother looking to download them for free because of the hassle. They would rather get good copies from the sorce, provided they were charging a reasonable price. [ about $.75 per video] This is only the last resort between music fans wh cannot find these things anywhere else.