Update Comparison LimeWire And BearShare Lite
 

As I stated in the other thread I ran the comparison test again and I can just copy and paste the results here because they were pretty much Identical. As a matter of a fact I did but this time I have added screen shots because as they say a picture is worth a thousand words.

I Bearshare lite from the official site. The link below

http://www.bearshare.com/lite/

Both Bearshare and LimeWire were running on the same computer. They both had their own incoming and download folders, The shared the same share folder. I divided the download bandwidth in 1/2 between them. I have cable 700MB down I gave each 350MB limits. Upload I have 45MB I limited both to 15MB each. I did my searches and downloads using exact phrases in the search and Downloaded same size files.

I have read in a few post that BS/Lite does not contain spyware and since it had been a while since I tested it I thought I would check it out.

Well the results were as follows I downloaded and installed BS/Lite from presumably the official site. I ran both BS/Lite and LW at the same time I figured it was a good time to test set up different folders for both to DL in both used the same folder for sharing thus the same files available. Newest version of both LW4.9.28 at the time.

Search Results

Both had pretty much the same search results for the same file names at times LW had more other times BS had more but both were pretty much equal.

Download Results

Once again they were pretty much equal here I did DL of 10 files at a time both simultaneously limited DL bandwidth equally between the 2. Some files BS completed first some LW did these files being of same name an size and started approximately at the same time. Some of the files LW found more sources others BS found more about 50/50 here. I must say that LW did complete the total group's of files before BS in all cases about 25% faster.

I did have one thing that changed here. I added a test here where I mixed popular files and files that only had 1 or 2 sources BearShare did find more sources to download from on less popular files and would complete these files about 20% faster.

Upload Results

Here I found BS to kick LW butt it appeared that all the files in my library were available for upload in the 12 hrs I ran the test all files had UL in BS. While in LW only 7 files got UL I have wrote about this problem before but no one has ever been able to explain it to me. They always say that maybe no one wants the other files just proved that one wrong. But I am currently running 4.9.29 and it appears that this issue is not as bad in this version of LW 100 of 564 files available have activity in the uploads column that is a vast improvement over 7 with prior versions. So this may no longer be an issue.



User Interface

Here in my opinion LW kicks BS butt LW to me is allot easier to set up and use there is a better display of information on the LW screen and simpler to use. It is also easier to configure . But this is just my personal opinion and preference.

In my opinion LimeWire is the better of the 2

Any way the results are as I found them and yes I am partial to LimeWire in my opinion it is the best out there. I did reproduce some or the problems that people are currently posting. None of which were LimeWires fault. Will Post that at a latter time have to hit the road right now have a long drive to head back to work my weekend is over.


Computer Usage

This time I did a comparison of memory usage and CPU usage. The results were as follower.Bearshare Lite uses about 30% less memory than LimeWire. But it uses more CPU the minimum for BS was 5% continues with spikes at 40% LimeWire most of the times was 0% with spikes at 16%.

Spyware

BearShar Lite Has no bundled Software or Spyware

This post has been edited by me originally it said BearShare Lite contained SpyWare. I had relied on Microsoft Anti SpyWare as a checker I had grown to trust it. As it turned out it was un reliable, Sphinx and et voilà both said there was no spyware in BearShare lite. Thus I redid the test 2 more times . Well now I have to take my damm foot out of my mouth and say I posted a false statement and apologize for the inaccuracies. Thank you et voilà and Sphinx for correcting me.

The Picture below shows the results of various searches as you can see LimeWire did better on some and bearshare did better on some the searches were done simultaneously using exact phrases

Below is the task manager it pretty much speeeks for itself

Upload Bear Share shows more activity the screen shot was taken of a exact match of files LimeWire had ran for a 10 Hrs. and Bearshare 2 hrs.

This is a false Positive MSAS is associating the name BearShare with spyware. Other spyware detectors proved this wrong. And I could not find any in my registry.

Test after Install False Positive

More results

U.SaveNow is present in the registry and can be easily removed BearShare Lite still works after removal.

Thank you for posting this Grandpa! I was considering trying out BearShare Lite but all it took to change my mind was the fact that it contains Spyware. That's the last thing I need! Thank you for informing us.:D

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You welcome CyberStalker I do not think that BearShare is a bad program it works pretty good. I used it for a long time but in my opinion LimeWire is better at least for me and if you browse the BS forums they have problems also.

I should add that Microsoft Anti Spyware removed all traces of the spyware completely

I really dont understand your point? P2P is P2P the only diff. is some options. I prefer it over LW for speed. I seem to go faster and get more resources in BL than in LW. And if you perfer LW whats the point then? They both connect to the same network and allow you to download the same files. I personally prefer BL interface over LW and its easier to config and works really well with firewalls whereas, Limewire doesn't. In all these threads people have the same problems, they are having a hard time downloading or cant connect ect. Im no expert but to me, these apps are the same with a few different options. LW was always clunky compared to BS and I like the stats in Bearshare, it tells you your speed, and everything thats connected to the network, how many freeloaders, etc. LW doesnt. Not knocking either program as I use both. Be fair about it, Bearshare is best for smoother and faster downloads than Limewire. I can only go 20k in LW but in Bearshare I can go a bit faster with more resources than in LW. Just my humble opinion, nothing more.

I take that back, the only point your trying to make is that it has spyware. which can be removed after the install, no biggie there. Nothing new, its been like that for a long time now. Paranoid about spyware then dont use the program. I have used the basic as well and simply removed, scanned my drive and found no errors and I have an anti virus program.:rolleyes:

Ah HA you posted befure you read it through dont blamb you there it is pretty long. :D :D

I don't think Grandpa posted all of this for people who may be 'paranoid' about spyware. In the official BearShare site it states that BearShare Lite has no spyware. Grandpa just wanted to inform people that it indeed does contain spyware. You may not have found it a problem removing all of that crap but there's a lot of people that don't want to go through all of that hassle. Not only that, but I don't understand why BearShare would lie and say that the program doesn't have spyware in it when it actually does. What would they have to gain from that?

I will not enter the BS/LW debate, but two things:

BS development is dead, there won't be other versions/improvements
BS lite *IS* spyware free. Just like LW. Something reporting spywares in BS lite is a broken tool.

Mes 2 cents!

et voilà

So are you saying that Microsoft Anti spyware is reporting that BS/Lite has Spyware just because of the name BS

One thing that I did not do this time was run a boot scan with avast before running MSAS but the last time Avast reported Gain.

I do not like being wrong and if I am I will correct it what spyware program is not broken.

MS anti spyware was picking LW as a spyware before....

Try BS lite with Spybot and Adaware. I do not trust others, because they are not testing enough their tools. I thought MS was ok now, but it doesn't seem so now. Do we need a gazillion anti spyware tools just beause that's a lucrative market? (exploit users as usual...) ;)

I've installed BS lite many times and never got spywares. By your screenshots it seems MS anti spyware just picks anything BS related as spyware, indicating MS antispyware is crap. That's the only logical conclusion I can get from the screenies.

Ciao

Thanks et voilà

I will do it again

OK here are the result I ran all 3 spyware detectors prior to re installing BS/Lite my computer came up clean. I then installed BS/Lite I did no go onto the Internet I disconnected from the Internet after I DL the installer. And prior to running the spyware detectors which I ran 3 times before installing BS/Lite.

Below are the results both of prior and after all 3 detected spyware after installing and running BS/Lite. But BS/Lite ran fine after the spyware was removed. I think I really haven't taken the time to mess with it allot since removal of the spyware. I only started it and connected to the Internet and did a search and made sure it was UL to others.

et voilà

I do not know if the results are correct from the detectors. I have found that you are usually right when you make a comment but I am having a hard time convincing myself there is no spyware in BS/Lite. If you have any other suggestions let me know I will try them. I do not wish to make any false statements.

After Installing BS/Lite I do not know where the Avenue A Inc. and questionmarket came from since all three reported no spyware before installing BearShare Lite bu the did not come up on the 3rd test. The links below explain what they do they are tracking cookies.

http://www.statcounter.com/help/know...edge.php?id=64

http://ch.questionmarket.com/site/su...mpanyinfo.html

After Install Save Now is Adware not spyware. The BearShare bundled software is a false positive. The link below is the definition of U.SaveNow from there website.

http://www.whenu.com/help.html

You saw it! No spywares in Spybot and Adaware! FYI cookies are something you got meanwhile when using a browser. You maybe even got that cookie from going onto BS site. Is a cookie a spyware? Well, it can be used to track someone on the web, (gnutellaforums has cookies too) but this is certainly not from Bearshare and a cookie is not an application, only some data with expiry date. Just browse the web and spybot will find dozen of those.

I understand you can be confused about that stuff since it can look complacated, but really MS antispyware is WRONG and BS lite is CLEAN.

Ciao ;)

et voilà

Thank you for you help here, and correcting me. (It is appreciated) I did it all for a 3rd time. The U.SaveNow Adware is coming from BS/Lite I disconnected from the Internet then manually went to the registry and made sure it wasn't there. I then installed BS/Lite with the installer that was saved to my hard drive still disconnected from the Internet.

After installing and opening BS/Lite still disconnected. I did another spyware scan MSAS reported U.SaveNow Adware I then manually went into the registry and it was there. But it can easily be removed and BS/Lite works without it. U.SaveNow brings up pop-ups as you browse the Internet. It is quite annoying but it is not spyware and it is easily removed.

The bundled spyware MSAS reports is no existent apparently it is associating the name of BearShare to bundled spyware rather than checking for the spyware itself. Rather disappointing I did have faith in MSAS up until this point. While I still think it is a decent tool I see they are starting to take shortcuts in the definitions department and will no longer rely on it's results without a second opinion or third.

Boy I hate being wrong but (BEARSHARE LITE HAS NO SPYWARE)