No, it didn't, - some of the packages are just missing the GPL notice.

No, they weren't. They were moved but not removed.

I have followed this thread with interest, and whilst the thread seems to have vered this way and that ..... On the subject of Frostwire/Limewire I firmly support Trapjaw and the Frostwire team, and while no one really knows, I don't think, what the fate of Limewire will be, the fate of the Limewire tradition is in safe hands.

I have been surprised by verdyp's condemnation of Frostwire. This is a part of the "about frostwire" credits

"Our most sincere thanks go to LimeWire LLC and its current and former developers who chose to make their client open-source and without whom this project would not have been possible:"

That looks like a perfectly acceptable credit to me and is followed by the names of the Limewire Developers.

This From Frostwire's Website:

"We are busy building a website and creating a new design for the FrostWire Gnutella client. Since LimeWire is a registered trademark we cannot distribute the client under its old name. For that reason, we are looking for creative p2p fans that would like to create skins, design logos or websites. However we are also trying to get more people working on the Java core, the interface and the C++ windows installer (based on GnucDNA and NSIS). If you are interested in maintaining LimeWire's legacy get involved!

FrostWire and LimeWire
We are trying to maintain good relations to the LimeWire project. The FrostWire team (all of whom are still members of the LimeWire open-source community) regrets LimeWire's decision to start filtering content on Gnutella. However, we will continue supporting LimeWire development and do not wish to make fundamental changes to the LimeWire core itself. FrostWire will not break with LimeWire's design philosophy.

FrostWire however, will never offer a PRO version. The FrostWire project will always remain strictly non-profit and free of any bundled software, including any ads or nags."

I think that is perfectly clear to anyone that Frostwire is totally indebted to Limewire and acknowleges the fact. As for the exact legality of the trademark and whatever, I find it slightly ironic that this should be an issue.

later!

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Thats YOUR opinion. I think differently and will stand by orginal post.

I did not say anything about the Frostwire website, this is irrelevant.

What I said was about the Frostwire distributed software, which currently comes without the credits required by the GPL. (for example the unilateral change in its resource bundles).

Remember that the Frostwire software may be distributed by other means than the Frostwire website alone.

So it is not enough to give credits on the Frostwire website, because this is not part of the distributed software itself. The GPL is clear: any copy must be provided along with all credits and copyright notices, and with a copy of the GPL licence.

So Frostwire must be modified to be conforming with the GPL licence (and this can be done easily by reintegrating the copyright notice and credits in the resource bundles).

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To be honest, I think that Limewire does not fully respect the GPL as well. The GPL says that the software must also give access to the copy of the licence and to the copyright notices within its "about" functionality.

Several months ago I submitted a change for the About box in Limewire, so that it would contain selectors to display an additional "Credits" page and a "Licence" page. This change was reverted, but not justified.

I accept the fact that the Licence page is not required in the software made by LimeWire LLC itself because it is the copyright holder and LimeWire can choose to apply any licence it wishes, but this is problematic for those parts of the software that were made by other people and that are bundled in LimeWire.

The relevant part of the GPL is the "How to apply the GPL to your software" section which exposes some ways that are considered sufficient to make the distribution conforming with the licence under which the software is published.

For translations, there is a problem: there are many contributors, but it is not clear which licence they apply to their work. But for now, no translator has requested it, and then the copyright notice that is displayed on the Limewire.org website where the translation mailing list address is shown becomes the default copyright: translations sent to the list are donated to LimeWire LLC, under the terms of the GPL.

That's why I think it is important to give an access to the GPL in the Limewire software itself, and to include a credits page (the list of all past translators is kept to allow such references, and there's a page on the Limewire.org web site where they are available, unless those translators said they wanted to remain anonymous or listed only though a pseudonym).

However another way to conform the software with the GPL is to include those information in the installer rather than in the installed software, because it is a required step before using the software:by pressing OK to install the software, the user explicitly agrees with the terms of the displayed licence.

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Sorry bro but I find that hard to believe. Like I said, Bearshare/Limewire had no pro versions when they started out. I bet my bottom dollar that once they make it big, if and when they do because I'll be one of the few that wont switch to Frostwire when the time comes, they WILL indeed comeout with a Pro version to make money off it. So much for free, open source.

Fair enough, but the first part of my post that you quoted came from the "about Frostwire" under Help in Windows, or Frostwire in Mac, which comes with the software. I am obviously missing some finer point of your argument here but this seems, as I said, quite good enough to me

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May it has been modified in a recent distribution of the Frostwire software. If so, that's good.

The last time Ichecked the Frostwire ressource bundle, the reference to Limewire copyright had been removed from the Frostwire version.

And the last time I received an update for the German translation of the bundle, it was a bundle edited by a german contributor from the Frostwire distribution, with all comments and empty lines removed, and without the LimeWire copyright. I had to restore manually all the removed data (and unchange all the modified references to FrostWire) before applying the very few effective updates that it really contained.

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all you have been arguing about is verry interesting, but doesn't it just come to this: frostwire does not care about the GLU license as long as LimeWire doesn't seu them or anything or even gives them a warning, and don't you think if YOU guys know about frostwire being a clone, then the limewire devolopers know aswell?

So far I have to agree with GGT. I purchased a subscription through www.gamedownloadaccess.com. Are you saying that I did not need to purchase a subscription from this vendor and that I should just go to "Limewire" and download a copy of their program? Is that what people mean when they say they have been scammed?

I have a Mac with OSX and purchased this for my daughters to rty different games. I was not looking for "ILLEGAL and FREE GAMES"! I thought this was a legitimate games website.

I have tried to download games without any success. I am not sure if I need to only look for a certain type of download. For the past 36 hours I have been looking for "The Sims 2" for OSX and everything I have downloaded has been crap. I'll take anything Sims right now just to see if this process really works.

Lastly is Limewire and the fact that people are downloading games reallu ILLEGAL. Can someone answer these questions for me? My other questions regarding file types have not been answered so far. Thanks in advance.