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Old February 7th, 2002
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I am sorry to hear that you feel we have been deceitful in any way. I, of course, strongly disagree with this perception, and I think that you have missed several points along the way.

First, we give you the option to buy LimeWire Pro, where none of these issues apply.

If you choose to install the free version, we do not deny (and we have never denied) that there's optional bundled software in the application. Far from denying it, we state this explicitly in the installer, and this has always been the case. You did not need to "research" what we were installing, because we were telling you in bold letters that we were installing Gator and TopText, giving you the option not to install either one. We always gave you this option.

Regarding Cydoor, as we have said numerous times, Cydoor is an ad engine. It serves ads in the same way that the banner on the top of this web page serves ads. Simply put, LimeWire makes money from advertising in the same way that three quarters of the technology companies in the world make money from advertising. Outside of the technology sector, much of the entertainment industry follows the same model. LimeWire is clearly not alone in the advertising business, and I feel strongly that we should not be condemned for making money from advertising.

Regarding the "Trojan" that was temporarily installed with LimeWire, Symantec has since corrected its assertion that this was a malicious virus, as you can see at the following link:

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...w32.dlder.html

We were also being truthful when we proclaimed that we were not aware that this software reported information back to ClickTillUWin, as were four or five other software companies being truthful when they claimed not to have been aware that this was the case when they included it with their programs.

As far as LimeShop goes, there are many companies that profit from affiliate programs as well --- www.ebates.com, for example. We prefer this method of making money to using advertising, as we feel that it annoys users less and does not change the user experience. We have been in contact with RoadRunner Sports to correct the glitch that was causing them problems.

So, while I symapthize with your frustration regarding these issues, I really do not think that we have been anything but truthful in these matters. I also ask you to recognize that we have tried to provide the users with as many options as possible while still allowing LimeWire to exist, providing optional installs of bundled software and providing the LimeWire Pro alternative.

Thanks.
 


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