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Old October 27th, 2008
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Default Download speeds - Will Pro version (turbo) really help?

I've got five or six computers all running limewire, and I noticed that the download\upload speeds vary quite a bit from computer to computer. One of them is incredibly fast, oddly, that is one my slower computers, tried different things; network cards, different ip's, different versions, (haven't tried pro version yet myself because a friend had pro version, hooked his tower into my network and didn't seem any faster than mine.) guess could try Pro and comment on it. One thing that seems to work is going to the task manager\view\update speed\selecting high (refresh rate) seems to increase speed by 20% to 25% on all computers. Trying to understand it better! Play and Learn I guess! If I find how to improve it I'll reply. I see alot of comments on connection problems. Once in awhile I need to go to (upper left tab) click file\connect on one computer. Here's another question! Where do I make replies, comments, or state an idea? **Running 10 meg broadband cable service, with modem to router (using only a single port of router) to 14 port concentrator to computers (2000 pro on one, XP on the rest)** (This is fastest means acheived thus far) Also someone needs to make a easier link to a new thread, found myself seaching for it! Should be easier than it is, (for us new people).
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Feature requests section, however LW devs rarely visit there now. If they visit forums, it's usually their beta forums.

Pro has the ability to download from 10 hosts her file as compared to Basic's 8 which can arguably result in faster downloads sometimes. Pro also has some better abilities for searching the rarer files due to its extra 2 ultrapeers it connects to (5 instead of 3 UP's.) But other than that, Pro is definitely not dramatically better. The improvements are more subtle.

Here's an example of my LW Pro operating http://www.gnutellaforums.com/limewi...tml#post330034 as you see I was lucky enough to find some fast hosts. Definitely doesn't happen every day though, perhaps because I tend to go for the harder to find files.

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looool???
LimeWire is limited to 10 Hosts per file?
My Shareaza is right now downloading a Shareaza installer (just for the fun of trying it out) from something around 50 Hosts...
[most of them Gnutella2, 1 eDonkey one and 1 Gnutella]
It *might* be that the download speeds on Shareaza are sometimes better than those on LW... even better than those on LW Pro...


EDIT: Here is a printscreen I took 13 secs after I started the download (the number of transfers was still increasing):


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Well, it is also well known that on some 'other' p2p networks (non gnutella1) .. not naming any lol ... that due to their extra connections to hosts, others can spend ages sitting in queues for downloads. It's a sacrifice, one or the other, that people connect easily to hosts, or that they sit in queues for hours on end.

Also the sacrifice with multi-p2p network programs, is that when they are using multiple networks at same time, the uploads suffer on others. Shareaza's behaviour on Gnutella network has always been a problem in that regard, not uncommonly getting speeds of less than 1 KB/s from Shareaza hosts due to their upload bandwidth being spent on 'other' networks. (Or their upload slots being taken up of course.)

IMHO .. Ideally, such multi network programs should either (a) only connect to one network at a time, or (b) be forced to offer a minimum upload amount per network they are connected to.

Shareaza does have the ability to connect to only one network at a time, but not many users choose that option it appears. In so many ways Shareaza could be improved, as it is a good program. As I said, just IMHO.
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Hey???
I got that downloads out of G2!

If you use Shareaza, usually, you get around 90% of your transfers out of G2, because G2 is more efficient in finding sources for a file...
That's why. Have a look at the number of sources for the file found in these 13 secs and tell me whether this is possible on G1.

Shareaza is not 'taking the G1 abandwidth away'. In fact, on my own computer, I made statistics about this (~one year ago) and I noticed I was uploading more than 3 times more data to G1 than I was downloading from this network. On the eDonkey network, it's even worse, because of their queue length. (Takes long to get downstream from them and you give them quite much bandwidth by default...)

Also, around 80% of the Shareaza users are only connected to G2 (which is the default set by the installer), so they will never get any downloads from G1 at all...


[You know, I really hate these prejudices against multi-network clients.]


EDIT: What matters at the end is not that I am able to download file xy with 6MB of size within 20 seconds, but wat matters is the size of file xy. What matters at the end is the amount of transfered data, not the transfer speed.
Whether I am getting it from one network or an other does not matter either. (And I never got one file 100% from G1, I can affirm you this.)

Shareaza has by default 4 upload queues (2 for incomplete files and 2 for libary files). 2 of them are for eDonkey (~1/3 of your upload bandwidth by default) and the 2 others are for Gnutella (G1 and G2). Which means we reserve around 2/3 of our upload bandwidth for other networks (including ~1/3 of the total bandwidth for G1), whereas we get more than 90% of our transfered data from G2, because it can find sources faster... and it can find all existing sources on the network. So plz do your math now and tell me if we are taking G1 bandwidth away...!

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