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Firewall & Port Setting - Some Useful Links Here is a link for further information and explanations about Firewall and Port configuration and selection... > User Cant Connect - LimeWire for the LimeWire Firewalls Support page. Read all of it and be certain to scroll down to the very bottom... And, do examine the information in the thread available by clicking on > Alternate PORTS in my 'sig' below Check if you are able to use Port 6346 by clicking on > Port :6346 - Test If It Is 'Blocked' also in my 'sig'. |
Note: if you have a router you should update to LW 4.4 and up. With UPnP (universal plug and play), LW now does the port forwarding automatically for you when your router supports UPnP. --look into your manual or search google to see if your router is UPnP compliant--. You have a router that doesn't support UPnP or you want to do port forwarding manually? This site has all of them and explains how to forward a port (In case of gnutella, it is 6346) http://portforward.com/routers.htm To get a static address (for stable port forwarding that you won't have to change in your config once in a while): http://portforward.com/networking/staticip.htm If your port 6346 is blocked, or you want variety, nothing stops you from using another port: once unfirewalled you will still get the same results as if you forced the port 6346. If you are using LW, go to options > advanced > firewall (set to port 6346 if not already) and check the option to manually configure the port below the same preference window --select the same port as above, default is 6346--). If you want to see if you are still firewalled in LW, then go to options > error reports > click on 'see an example': If the following line says, "Received incoming this session: true", congrats! You are now fully open to gnutella... If it says no, something went wrong... Check again all the steps to get unfirewalled to the port 6346. Bonne chance ą tous! Edit was only to help with a few clarifications. I didn't change anything, Doc ! Honest ! |
1 Attachment(s) For those of you who are forwarding a port, you will also need to forward a port within LW. You will need to use the same port no. in both the router device, any Firewall you use, LW's port setting & LW's Firewall setting. For Windows: Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall OSX: LW's Prefs>Advanced>Firewall OS9: Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall But don't forget the setting in LW>... >Advanced>Port must also be the same port no. as the LW firewall setting. I have provided this sample image to make it easier for people to know what to do within LW. (sample below is for the "old" version of LW, for the version used "now" see sample 2 posts below this one!) |
Hubs do not exsit (sortof) When port forwarding it's important to know hubs don't change anything. Sometimes hubs are no more than splced wires (crappy hubs). But port forwarding is not nessisary behind just a hub. So with your prob of switch > hub > comp think of it as switch > comp. I hope this was helpful. |
3 Attachment(s) LimeWire 5 location: For Windows: Tools > Options > Advanced > Listening Port. ___ Mac OSX: (⌘ + ,) LW's Prefs > Advanced > Listening Port. Attachment 5186 (Click to see larger image view) If your router does not support Universal Plug 'n Play (UPnP), then you can manually port forward. You'll also need to forward the same port on your modem/router. Find your model on this list PortForward.com - Free Help Setting up Your Router or Firewall. Listening Port & Manual Port Forward numbers should be the same!!! Old LimeWire 5 location: For Windows: Tools > Options > Advanced > SuperReallyAdvanced > Firewall ___ Mac OSX: (⌘ + ,) LW's Prefs > Advanced > SuperReallyAdvanced > Firewall Attachment 4673 (Click to see larger view) LimeWire 4 Here's the LW 4 settings for Port Forwarding. If your router does not support Universal Plug 'n Play (UPnP), then you can manually port forward. You'll also need to forward a port on your modem/router. Find your model on this list PortForward.com - Free Help Setting up Your Router or Firewall (NOTE!: This is now refered to as Manual Port Forward & NOT Force IP. A more appropriate name for the function!) Listening Port & Manual Port Forward numbers should be the same!!! See image below. (Windows equivalent image click here) For Windows: Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall ___ Mac OSX: (⌘ + ,) LW's Prefs>Advanced>Firewall ___ (Mac OS 9 = windows location) http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...rt-forward.gif . |
I use DWL-520 D-Link. Now in that website for D-Link, I just need to add 6346 for both start port and end port? What about IP? This is what it look like when entering Port Forward. Local IP Adr /Start Port/ End Port/ Protocol/ Enabled Okay tell me what to add in there for Local IP, Start Port and end Port. Then I just add 6346 in Limewire and force IP, that it? |
Don't confuse the two ip's. For port forwarding the ip should be the private ip of your computer. The ports to & from would be both 6346. For Force ip above it would also be port 6346. Go into the command prompt (windoze) and type "ipconfig" without the quotes of course. That's your private ip. |
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So in the D-Link website, I just add my priviate IP and add 6346 for both Start Port and End Port? Then click Force IP and add 6346 in Limewire? That's all I have to do? |
That web page is how you can control your D-Link device. So yes I think you've got it now. Good luck! You did set up a static ip first didn't you as described at http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm You must have a static ip for this to work otherwise it won't work permanently b/c next time you log on you'd have a different ip (dynamic ip.) Good luck! ;) |
I use DWL-520 and this device is not shown in that link you gave to me. So how do I know if I have already set up static ip? |
The instructions for setting up a static ip are basically the same for all models. There's a link to how to do it. Also it should explain in your manual how to do it. I also have a D-Link & my manual does give some explanations. Yours I suspect is this one: http://www.dlink.co.uk/?go=jN7uAYLx/...Jk6j8rFivsyg== else type in your model. Port Forward.com does not list all models. So if your model is not there it's difficult to know whether port forwarding is possible or not with it. But download the manual & have a look. Then you'll find out whether it's possible or not. Normally the steps are: 1. Set up a Static IP 2. Forward a Port 3. Force IP using 6346 within LW. |
Okay I checked. I had already set up the static IP. So now when I set up the port in D-Link website, which protocol should I enabled, TCP or UDP or both? |
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Okay so this is what I do 1. Go to command prompt and type in ipconfig - Private IP 2. Go to D-Link website where I set up the forwarding 3. Add Private IP in Local IP 4. In both Start Port and End Port, it will be 6346 5. Protocol will be both 6.CLick enabled and apply 7. Go to Limewire and then Firewall 8. Click on Force IP and Port will be 6346 and apply it Is that all I have to do? Now I should see huge increase in downloading speed right? Remember I have ultra fast connection, 5 Mbps= 500 KB per sec and more than 300 upload. When I download from any sever except for peer to peer network, I could download at full speed. But before this I could only download less than 20 KB per sec most of the time IN Limwire. So if I am downloading from cable user and it is good connection, I should go over 100 KB downloading speed most of the time right? Waiting for your respond Lord Of The Ring |
That all sounds right yes. But check your D-Link manual. With my D-Link 504G I had to reboot the modem after completing the port forwarding. These are instructions for the D-Link 504G on a Mac. But this is a different model!!! ;) |
Does this IP Static also apply when it comes to hosting the game? Because when I was able to host the game for a month now without having to change anything. Does this mean I am using Static IP? Is setting up Port Forwarding for the game same as Limewire? |
Advanced games you play over the internet will also need to have ports opened depending on the needs of the particular game. You will need to read the game's instructions (manual) about whether & what ports need to be opened for that reason. Same principle applies. It's exactly the same but will use different port numbers. I've never done port forwarding for 2 purposes, but I'd suggest they'd be best as separate listings as port forwarding (ie: do a separate port forwarding.) |
That's werid, because the only way I can set up the IP and port is having to go through "Port Forwarding". This is what I have to enter when entering Port Forwarding Local IP Adr/ Start Port/ End Port/ Protocol Enabled I do not see any virtual sever so this may be my only opition. But maybe I am suppose to use this one Port Triggering but you do not enter IP Adress, maybe it is already applyed. Let me show you what it look like. Trigger Range /Target Range Protocol Enable Start Port /End Port /Start Port/ End Port So I think I am supposed to use Port Forwarding, maybe not? |
Just want to let you know that I have sucess with this. Now I can reach over 175 :eek: . Now I can download the way I am meant to download. Thanks for your help. |
Really good that this thread is helping people... If it wasn't, there would be many, many posts from VERY unhappy people blasting smitty_the_smith, fabion, LotR (who deserves at least a daily blasting, anyway), et et voilą... (Who we all know requires at a minimum an hourly blasting !) ;) luego :) |
I did all the instructions and it didn't work, do I try different proxies? |
What if your ISP block port 6346. What port number is recomended as alternative. I am using port 80 as recom by LOTR. It works but wont this influence something else ? Ursula (forum member) recom using port numbers from 49152 to 65535 (Dynamic Ports). Bottomline should I or not force IP with 6346?? |
Try 6346 & if it doesn't work then try other port no.'s. Use port 80 as a last resort only. Some people have had success using different ports such as 3500 or 20282 for example. (With the tests below you must have LW running at the same time!!!) You can try testing the port no.'s with these tests: http://www.grc.com/ http://home.no.net/tgrumpy/ct/dex.php http://koti.mbnet.fi/gfactory/ctest/ http://jlh.no-ip.org/connectiontest/ |
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I've just been getting confused about the two settings on the image you posted. Are the 'Listen on Port' and 'Manual Port Forward' always going to be the same? Why would they ever be different? Also, Limewire up to this point has been working fine with uPnP, but I just discovered I never enabled it in the firmware of my Linksys BEFSX41 router! How can that be? Finally, should I go ahead and enable uPnP in the router's firmware, and check it in Limewire, (and if so should I leave the 'Listen on Port' at my 5xxxx choice and keep it forwarded in the router's firmware?) And finally (I mean it this time), does Limewire need both TCP and UDP or just one (which one)? Thanks so much for your time and I hope I'm not beating a dead horse here... :) |
Hi! I've got kinda strange question. I have a Netgear dg834g roter, with hardware firewall. The trick is that I need to block connection for any gnutella-operating software. If blocking port 6346 it doesnt stop LW from connecting. What can i do? |
LotR is the current chief resident dungeon dweller in charge of answering your question... Harass him until he does so !!! :p |
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One must assume from your comments above that you are in an administrative role... OR, gosh and golly, maybe even a real parent !!! ??? If you need to BLOCK access to so-called Gnutella clients, it is very easy... Far easier than for the millions of university students out there who WANT to enable Gnutella Network connects ! What exactly is it that you wish to do ? The 'why' is not so important, but may help others in providing you with a one-time intelligent reply. |
qbertprime yes UPnP is much prefered. So set your Linksys for UPnP & do the same for LW. AFAIK The newer model Linksys have reliable UPnP. But there are times LW or the device doesn't handle UPnP by losing connection. Most Linksys devices 'should' be very safe for the UPnP setting. With UPnP set, port forwarding is not necessary! UPnP does the same job by opening the appropriate port at the request of the program. TCP & UDP both should be enabled for access. It's your choice of which port to set up to use. I'll await Inflynx's responses to Ursula's questions before I answer. Knowing the environment of use will help. |
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Im actually having a small home network which i share with several other roommates. The only difference is that i have got all the passwords and the understanding of how that all works. Thoses guys are using Limewire. I have to admit that LW is a vary good software so while it is been used all the internet goes terriblly slow. Not very good for me since i never use gnutella. The case though is that im not farmilia how to configure Netgear DG834G router to block 6346 port. I mean i did configure built-in firewall for blocking in- & out- connections for any local IP addresses, but it doesnt stop LW from getting connected and working. |
It sounds to me negotiation about times of use would be the best answer so everybody is happy. Otherwise there's going to be some very cheesed off roommates. Blocking the port via your Netgear might not necessarily totally block their use of LW however. There's filters that can be used on networks but these are commercial programs. |
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Way doesnt it stop LW than? |
It depends on the particular router device. Some will totally block the incoming & outgoing from certain ports whereas some will only close off incoming. I'm not sure about netgear. There may be other ways you can set it up. I've sent a pm to another member for their thoughts. |
@Inflynx: i have a linksys router, but you might also have the ability to do the same in the netgear router with a slight modification to the steps. but in my advanced setup, it has a filters tab, i click that and i have full control over which computers can access outside of my network, along with which computers can access which ports, and network wide port filtering. if your users are dumb enough, they would never no how to change limewire to use another port if you block it. you may want to disable upnp also. but like as i was saying, if they happen to find out how to change the port number, then that block wont work. but you can always figure out what port they set it to via the routers DHCP clients table (if your network is using dhcp) along side using the router log to verify which computer is accessing which ports. (atleast on my router it has this)... if you want to goto the extreme, (on my router) you can block mac addresses (nic hardware addresses) (or IP addresses if mac blocking is too difficult) from using a certain protocol on a range of ports. however, gnutella is not on the list (since its not a standard network protocol)... BUT if you block the UDP protocol on all ports (1 to 65535), then LimeWire wont be able to do any FW2FW transfers at all. (this means no uploads or downloads.) and remember to disable the upnp service on the router so their machines cant open ports because this will circumvent the whole process. but it still will beable to connect to the network using tcp (which is RECOMMENED THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BLOCK TCP since that is the basic communication protocol of the internet, and you would block your users from accessing even webpages). -this is not a guide, but it is reference as to what you may want to do- -ultracross |
Lord of the Rings, ultracross Many thanks, guys. I will be trying this :) |
What you need to do is to limit the dl/up speed of LWs on each machine so they don't slow down the network [total bandwidth (up then down) available minus 25% / number of people using LW]. Go in Options -> downloads to limit dl speed, go in Options -> transfers -> basic to limit upload speed. There is no way you'll be able to block totally LW from your netgear without serioulsy impairing basic internet traffic on your network. You would need a software solution acting as a router/gateway ie a linux/openbsd box. Ciao |
Can anyone help? Hi Everyone,:) First of all I'd like to say "Hi" , as I've just regisitered. I was wondering if anyone can help me. I've just installed the new version,have done everything that was mentioned to set up the firewall and still I can't connect. I know the port isn't blocked. My Older version 4.8.1 stopped working sometime in late May for some strange reason. I cleared out everything to do with the older version and installed the new version. Sob and still I can't connect. :confused: :rolleyes: My ISP is Plus.net does anyone know whether they have started to block Limewire as there is nothing on their website about it. Hope someone can help, Thanks. |
How I SOLVED the ULTIMATE Firewall Hell FYI, I posted a message in a new thread about how I successfully drilled port 6346 through a pretty hairy firewall configuration (three levels of firewalls, including a tightly configured Linux ipfilter-based IP Masquerading firewall). See http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=44841 Cheers! |
Port Forwarding Probs HELLLLLLLLLLLP!! I know how to port-forward, I do it all the time. So I set the port # to forward in Limewire and on my DSL router. But it still claims I'm behind a firewall! Grrrr! I do NOT have a firewall - what else would the problem be? BTW - I clicked on the test page you had in another post for testing if I can get to port 6346 - and it fails every time. Mindy PS. I even set my router to open ALL PORTS and it still failed to connect and failed to let me to the 6346 test page. |
What are your details OS(Win XP etc) LW & Java version (help > about LW & you'll see) Firewall you're using Modem/router brand & model ISP Connection type (DSL etc) Where you connect from (home, school etc) Are you sharing a connection with other computers Is this your first try with LW Have you made sure to configure your software firewall (if you use one) to allow LW access? A lot of connection issues are discussed here Connection problems? Check here first! Have you used p2p before? Something is blocking the default port... maybe your ISP? |
My Details Ok here's the details. - I use Windows 2000 pro - LW version 4.12.3 - the Basic, not Pro - I used to use Limewire last year and it worked fine for me - I do NOT have a firewall - I'm positive - My DSL modem is a Zyxel 645 and I know how to do port forwarding - I connect from home - no router or anything. Just my 1 pc. I hope u can help! Thx Mindy |
Have you tried using any other p2p apps & if so, do they give you the same problem? Who is your ISP? You could try changing to a higher port (eg something in the range 49152-65535). A higher port may not be blocked but LW is probably still going to pick up the NAT firewall within your modem. Does the modem support UPnP? If so, have you tried enabling UPnP & choosing that option within LW's options > advanced > firewall config? Sorry, I can't help much more here. Someone else might have a better idea? |
What about mine I do not have a good connection. No results are comind out.What might gonna be my problem? |
Found the problem I called my ISP and they block gnutella packets because it was slowing down their DSL servers!! GRRRRRRRRRR At least I know what the problem is now. Mindy |
Pardon? What ISP? And how will I fix it? |
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You could also try connecting thru a higher port such as between 49152 - 65535. ie: go to LW's menu bar, Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewalls & change ports there. |
My problem is simple: I downloaded 4.12.3, and although the old limewire was working great with avast, the installation gets as far as starting to open the program and then says "Limewire was unable to initialize and start. This is usually due to a firewall program blocking Limewire's access to the internet or loopback connections on the local machine. Please allow Limewire access to the internet and restart Limewire." The thing is, it's not blocked, and my ports are open. I'm not sure what to do with it?? |
Double check that your firewall is allowing the new version the same access as the old one. Some firewalls automatically block changed programs in case they were infected by a virus. If there is no obvious way to force the firewall to recognize changed versions delete the old rule and make a new one from scratch. |
? How Do I know what the section : Ports should saw so Limewire can allows use my computer. I am on a neighhood wireless network connection:rolleyes: |
Go LW>Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewall Config. There on the right side you'll see the Listening port number. http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1.../Smilywais.gif |
I did all that was advised to get round the Windowsxp firewall, (listening port nimber etc). Sometimes (yesterday) I still have the brickwall, sometimes (today, for instance) I don't have it. I simply ignore it and my LW works just fine |
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